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<blockquote data-quote="SabreCat" data-source="post: 5337656" data-attributes="member: 76245"><p>I'm one of those who's taken the "fix the monster math behind the DM's screen" approach, with the additional tweak of giving a tiered houserule bonus to each character's weakest NAD, so the Essentials changes definitely put me in a tricky spot. My plan for the moment is to continue disallowing Expertise feats and +all NADs feats until the second Heroes Of book comes out, since one of the characters in the group is a Pact Blade-wielding Warlock, for whom a fancy Expertise feat hasn't been released. If she's still not supported at that point, the feats stay disallowed. If she is, then the problem's gotten complicated enough that I'll put the question to my players about what to do. They don't tend to be rules-mechanics gearheads--one took the Linguist feat, ha--so I'm curious to find out if they even care which way we run it.</p><p></p><p>The suggestion I'll float will be to hand out one bonus feat slot per tier, usable only on feats from the Expertise and defense-enhancing families, and reset monster numbers to their by-the-book values. We're at Paragon now, so that should give people the ability to cover their core competencies and make a meaningful decision or two about the best way to do so without feeling "taxed". Not sure whether it'd be OK to take additional +defense feats with normal picks or not; I'd feel sad to see people's character sheets fill up with math bumps. But again, for this crowd it might actually be a meaningful decision to pick between e.g. Great Fortitude and Connected or whatever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SabreCat, post: 5337656, member: 76245"] I'm one of those who's taken the "fix the monster math behind the DM's screen" approach, with the additional tweak of giving a tiered houserule bonus to each character's weakest NAD, so the Essentials changes definitely put me in a tricky spot. My plan for the moment is to continue disallowing Expertise feats and +all NADs feats until the second Heroes Of book comes out, since one of the characters in the group is a Pact Blade-wielding Warlock, for whom a fancy Expertise feat hasn't been released. If she's still not supported at that point, the feats stay disallowed. If she is, then the problem's gotten complicated enough that I'll put the question to my players about what to do. They don't tend to be rules-mechanics gearheads--one took the Linguist feat, ha--so I'm curious to find out if they even care which way we run it. The suggestion I'll float will be to hand out one bonus feat slot per tier, usable only on feats from the Expertise and defense-enhancing families, and reset monster numbers to their by-the-book values. We're at Paragon now, so that should give people the ability to cover their core competencies and make a meaningful decision or two about the best way to do so without feeling "taxed". Not sure whether it'd be OK to take additional +defense feats with normal picks or not; I'd feel sad to see people's character sheets fill up with math bumps. But again, for this crowd it might actually be a meaningful decision to pick between e.g. Great Fortitude and Connected or whatever. [/QUOTE]
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