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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arashi Ravenblade" data-source="post: 4766440" data-attributes="member: 15630">To me D&D also has to do with the rules aspects. While each edition is different from the last there needs to remain enough of a similarity that its still recognizable. I think 4e fails in that regard and is not D&D. If I wanted to play a game where everyone was a total awesome guy with kewl powerz I would play Exalted, a game I think is better at pulling off what 4e is trying to do. Its similar to the old world of darkness versus the new. I consider the New World of Darkness to me more like the World of Kinda Dim.I dont know, there is just so much that goes into making D&D, D&D, and if you change too much to bring in new players you are gonna lose what it originally was. I should be able to open 80% of all past D&D books and understand what im looking at. For instance, my old information on mind flayers is mostly still good in 3.5, or my Old Planescape stuff.I think now with 4e, so much has changed that its not D&D anymore, regardless of he IP is still has. I can run a game with Cthulhu's essence  invading the Forgotten realms, but that doesnt mean im playing a call of cthulhu game. The same goes for having beholders and mindflayers. Just because they are in 4e doesnt make it d&d. 4e in and off itself is a decent system, just not D&D to me. Much like d20 modern isnt D&D, nor is Exalted, rolemaster, LOTR, Warhammer, Dark Ages World of Darkness. They each have their own isms that persist through each edition. And have the majority of them removed or overhauled to longer be recognizable changes the game. Original D&D through 3.5 are similar enough to me, to still be called D&D. I would ask this. Had WOTC gone out of business, and D&D was bought by another company with a house system so different to anything thats come before, would it still be D&D? Despite the name or IP? What if Palladium had gotten ahold of D&D and used their system with no alternations. Just slapped D&D on it?</blockquote>

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