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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4768197" data-attributes="member: 80487">Keefe the Thief's formulation is attractive, except that application of the (trademarked!) name is likely to create such a minority of doubters regardless of the nature of the object to which it is applied.I don't think it very meaningful to say that Skip-Bo or Hungry Hungry Hippos would "become" D&D if Hasbro chose so to rename it. Likewise, I think it reasonable to consider whether a game in fact so branded would suggest such a quandary had it instead been called something else.Measures that by their anachronism invalidate the original D&D game seem to me obviously absurd. That's like deciding a priori that a cat is a fish ... therefore (by its non-feline qualities) a goldfish is not a fish.</blockquote>