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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 4768853" data-attributes="member: 50895">It depends on point of view...From a 3pp point of view, D&amp;D is any derivitative of the license whether OGL, D20 or GSL, and although not &quot;licensed&quot; as such oD&amp;D, that too. Pathfinder is D&amp;D.&nbsp;Despite D&amp;D being the first RPG, I don't consider all RPGs to be D&amp;D, thus Rolemaster, Palladium, World of Darkness, are RPGs but not D&amp;D.&nbsp;Having tropes like Elves, Halflings or Wizards, Bards, Rogues, in my eyes more more like basic D&amp;D, but are not required. Thus OA's korobokoru and hengeyokai, or Sohei and Shukenja though not basic D&amp;D is still D&amp;D.&nbsp;Regarding the brand name or IP of WotC/TSR, that would describe D&amp;D from a legal point of view. I am not a lawyer, so basically this means nothing to me. I would consider 4e to be D&amp;D, though not a game that I would ever play.&nbsp;However, if somebody slapped the D&amp;D logo onto a Candyland game, would it be anything other Candyland, no. The brand name means nothing to me, from a players standpoint. So slapping a D&amp;D logo on anything does not make it D&amp;D. Perhaps from a legal point of view, maybe. But again I'm not a lawyer so I don't think like one.&nbsp;From a personal point of view, D&amp;D is everything produced by TSR/WotC, and D20/OGL but not 4e, that's really a Hasbro product. (except for RPG products that were not meant to be D&amp;D or a derivative, which there are a few.) And though Pathfinder is outside the license and not a product of TSR/WotC, since its based on 3.5 OGL, it is by my definition, D&amp;D.&nbsp;So it really depends on what perspective you are asking, because I have different answers, based on different points of view.&nbsp;GP</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 4768853, member: 50895"] [b]It depends on point of view...[/b] From a 3pp point of view, D&D is any derivitative of the license whether OGL, D20 or GSL, and although not "licensed" as such oD&D, that too. Pathfinder is D&D. Despite D&D being the first RPG, I don't consider all RPGs to be D&D, thus Rolemaster, Palladium, World of Darkness, are RPGs but not D&D. Having tropes like Elves, Halflings or Wizards, Bards, Rogues, in my eyes more more like basic D&D, but are not required. Thus OA's korobokoru and hengeyokai, or Sohei and Shukenja though not basic D&D is still D&D. Regarding the brand name or IP of WotC/TSR, that would describe D&D from a legal point of view. I am not a lawyer, so basically this means nothing to me. I would consider 4e to be D&D, though not a game that I would ever play. However, if somebody slapped the D&D logo onto a Candyland game, would it be anything other Candyland, no. The brand name means nothing to me, from a players standpoint. So slapping a D&D logo on anything does not make it D&D. Perhaps from a legal point of view, maybe. But again I'm not a lawyer so I don't think like one. From a personal point of view, D&D is everything produced by TSR/WotC, and D20/OGL but not 4e, that's really a Hasbro product. (except for RPG products that were not meant to be D&D or a derivative, which there are a few.) And though Pathfinder is outside the license and not a product of TSR/WotC, since its based on 3.5 OGL, it is by my definition, D&D. So it really depends on what perspective you are asking, because I have different answers, based on different points of view. GP [/QUOTE]

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