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<blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2825407" data-attributes="member: 35678"><p>You know, I hadn't even looked at Appraise fior the longest time, and I forgot it isn't cascading. Dwarves get a +2 on only metal or stone items, so I assumed it was (and I've houseruled this skill this way for a while). Well, I guess just assume when I say appraise I mean one which is cascading</p><p></p><p></p><p>multiclassing implied XP penalties, with a substituition level open for any class, this doesn't hurt as much. I guess we'll have to come up with a set of guidelines for the skills gained (like 'must be chosen from a previous classes Class Skill list, or something) but this is a good idea.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, this will be what will eventually happen (or something like it). I just need to figure out a fwe things for this first.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lorehead, you are sort of putting words into my mouth - no where did I mention a lack of suspense of disbeleif <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I am simply trying to do something a bit different - hence me posting this on House Rules. I am sort of amazed everytime someone posts something a little radical and it gets shot down - this is the <em>House Rules Board</em> for Pete's Sake <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>Anyways, I also disagree with a 20th level fighter being a 20th level blacksmith. This is simply not true - This is like a Sir Lancelot being able to forge a masterwork longsword - sure he knows how to use it, but it doesn;t mean he gets how to make it. I mean, I use computers everyday, but I can't hack a mainframe or anything <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>See, that is what I am seeing within the rules and why I want to expand on this. Ther should be a niche for immensely powerful furniture makers and cobblers and the like. robably with gang ties, but that's beside the point <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Exactly. My campaign is modeled after earth to a large degree and so this is something I really want to bring in. Just me being crazy again <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Another good suggestion. Since Skill Ranks are what determines acceptance into PrC's, I wouldn't see this as a problem. Since I want Craft/Profession skills to be harder to get in this model, burning a feat in the process to allow class ranks would be a good balance point, IMO.</p><p></p><p>PS, could you post this up in another thread (it sounds really interesting, BTW) so that we could reveiw it a bit and see if anything could be ported into this system? I really think that sounds cool, and I'd love to take a peak.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nyaricus, post: 2825407, member: 35678"] You know, I hadn't even looked at Appraise fior the longest time, and I forgot it isn't cascading. Dwarves get a +2 on only metal or stone items, so I assumed it was (and I've houseruled this skill this way for a while). Well, I guess just assume when I say appraise I mean one which is cascading multiclassing implied XP penalties, with a substituition level open for any class, this doesn't hurt as much. I guess we'll have to come up with a set of guidelines for the skills gained (like 'must be chosen from a previous classes Class Skill list, or something) but this is a good idea. Well, this will be what will eventually happen (or something like it). I just need to figure out a fwe things for this first. Lorehead, you are sort of putting words into my mouth - no where did I mention a lack of suspense of disbeleif :) I am simply trying to do something a bit different - hence me posting this on House Rules. I am sort of amazed everytime someone posts something a little radical and it gets shot down - this is the [i]House Rules Board[/i] for Pete's Sake :lol: Anyways, I also disagree with a 20th level fighter being a 20th level blacksmith. This is simply not true - This is like a Sir Lancelot being able to forge a masterwork longsword - sure he knows how to use it, but it doesn;t mean he gets how to make it. I mean, I use computers everyday, but I can't hack a mainframe or anything ;) See, that is what I am seeing within the rules and why I want to expand on this. Ther should be a niche for immensely powerful furniture makers and cobblers and the like. robably with gang ties, but that's beside the point ;) Exactly. My campaign is modeled after earth to a large degree and so this is something I really want to bring in. Just me being crazy again :) Another good suggestion. Since Skill Ranks are what determines acceptance into PrC's, I wouldn't see this as a problem. Since I want Craft/Profession skills to be harder to get in this model, burning a feat in the process to allow class ranks would be a good balance point, IMO. PS, could you post this up in another thread (it sounds really interesting, BTW) so that we could reveiw it a bit and see if anything could be ported into this system? I really think that sounds cool, and I'd love to take a peak. [/QUOTE]
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