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<blockquote data-quote="Nichols" data-source="post: 3111096" data-attributes="member: 41992"><p>...OK, the problem being that Weiss and Hickman's original Dragonlance work was <em>work for hire</em> - they produced the material and TSR took ownership of it lock, stock, and barrel. Once W&H completed the original Dragonlance products and turned the manuscripts in to TSR, they had no further control over it. TSR could do whatever it wanted with it. This is simply how work for hire is done.</p><p></p><p>So, if TSR wanted to move Soth from one product line to other (and, obviously, they did) Weiss and Hickman didn't have any say in the matter, <em>because they'd sold the rights to the character to TSR.</em></p><p></p><p>The fact that W&H chose to whine and cause a fuss does not mean that all the material about Soth in Ravenloft never happened. It just means W&H have chosen to be bad sports about it. They bad-mouthed TSR, wrote contradictory material in their novels, and finally got Soth sent back to Dragonlance by threatening to cut ties with TSR. And what do they do once they have Soth to use again? Kill him so that no one else can play with their toy again.</p><p></p><p>But the fact remains - Weiss and Hickman (and their fans) are the only ones who claim Soth was never in Ravenloft. TSR never said it, WotC never said it, and the Ravenloft designers over the years have sure as hell never said it.</p><p></p><p>In short, you're incorrect.</p><p></p><p>Chris Nichols</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nichols, post: 3111096, member: 41992"] ...OK, the problem being that Weiss and Hickman's original Dragonlance work was [I]work for hire[/I] - they produced the material and TSR took ownership of it lock, stock, and barrel. Once W&H completed the original Dragonlance products and turned the manuscripts in to TSR, they had no further control over it. TSR could do whatever it wanted with it. This is simply how work for hire is done. So, if TSR wanted to move Soth from one product line to other (and, obviously, they did) Weiss and Hickman didn't have any say in the matter, [I]because they'd sold the rights to the character to TSR.[/I] The fact that W&H chose to whine and cause a fuss does not mean that all the material about Soth in Ravenloft never happened. It just means W&H have chosen to be bad sports about it. They bad-mouthed TSR, wrote contradictory material in their novels, and finally got Soth sent back to Dragonlance by threatening to cut ties with TSR. And what do they do once they have Soth to use again? Kill him so that no one else can play with their toy again. But the fact remains - Weiss and Hickman (and their fans) are the only ones who claim Soth was never in Ravenloft. TSR never said it, WotC never said it, and the Ravenloft designers over the years have sure as hell never said it. In short, you're incorrect. Chris Nichols [/QUOTE]
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