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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9287660" data-attributes="member: 29398">I echo and applaud your "please note" here; this is all for example purposes only. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Isn't that what crits are for?  Your high-end Fighter might not one-shot every ogre she meets but now and then she'll behead one in a single blow, courtesy of a crit.To this well-put paragraph I can only say that just because our one ogre happens to have 88 hit points doesn't and shouldn't mean they all do; the same as not every 10th-level Cleric will have exactly 74 hit points (again, example only!) when fully rested.  If however it is the case that the game dictates every ogre has exactly 88 hit points and every 10th-level Cleric has 74, then things have moved way further into the board-game realm than I want to go.Also I guess we should keep in mind it's not always going to be top-end Fighters taking on our ogres; and a character (say, a Healing Cleric) that can only at best give out 20 damage on a hit probably shouldn't be one-shotting anything bigger than a house cat.  And yet the minion rules allow this: by RAW that Healing Cleric can one-shot a minion Frost Giant, provided she can hit it at all.Now here we diverge fairly sharply.I too want the fights to be interesting, but am not as concerned about the "narrative" side of things; that comes out in hindsight.  I'm also not after the whole "cinematic" style; if cinematic moments happen, they happen, but trying to force them (or make them too frequent) does them a disservice.That said, one of the key elements for me that makes the stroy tie together is internal consistency within the fiction.  Changing the same creature's mechanics based on who-what it's interacting with breaks that consistency wide open.I don't see swarm mechanics as inconsistent, however, provided they're simply the aggregate of the individuals involved.  Thus if each Orc averages 10 hit points and there's twenty of them in the swarm, then the swarm should have 200 hit points.  If each Orc has a 10% chance of hitting the foe then that's reflected in the swarm's average damage.  And so on.  That said, where swarm mechanics fall apart for me with anything bigger than cats is that they tend to ignore the fact that only so many individuals can attack a single person at once due to reach/spacing issues, and instead assume the whole swarm is attacking.</blockquote>

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