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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 9292327" data-attributes="member: 7025282">in the ancient days I played some tactical infantry games.  Perhaps I played some DOAM even more frequently.What I do not recall is complaining about one side having an advantage.  It might get pointed out and acknowledged, but was part of the puzzle and challenge.I also did not note complaints about bookkeeping or supply and limitations.  It was just part of the challenge.  And if a game had too much of that stuff and did not appeal, I would avoid it (looking at you ASL!).  Combat commander was more my style or maybe conflict of heroes.I wonder how many of their discussion threads consist of people who do not even play the game, complaining about the mechanics of it.It seems like a like D&D fora buck this tend.  Waldo does not like the game but makes sure to jump in and trumpet why—over and over.I think there is a reason I don’t post in 4e and or pathfinder discussions—-all I would be able to really add is what I don’t like.Just a side note as I scroll through this thread and look for discussion about the OP <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937.png" title="Person shrugging    :person_shrugging:" data-shortname=":person_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />I know my audience.  As we age our kids are growing up too!  They are included in more of our games.We prioritize family and friends…so we will slow down to explain and help in order to share our hobby and a lot of laughs.We have also had instance of more hardcore gaming where it might be mostly us geezers but what I have learned is that it is ME who cares most about rules…others are ok with the occasional handwave.Just know your audience.  Adapt and even have some game sessions for experts only if you need that.I have no problem helping someone along though as player or DM.  My friends wife is super excited and thrilled with playing but she simply does not for some reason grok the technicalities.  It’s been…a long time.I will help her because she adds to the fun whenShe cheers our shared victories or moans about defeats.  As long g as you bring something to the table, I will help you!I do not however want to helpThe person who is not paying attention “wake me when it’s my turn to roll.”  In that case if you don’t already know the rules, I am not the one to beg for your participation.</blockquote>

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