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Message: <blockquote data-quote="apoptosis" data-source="post: 2790188" data-attributes="member: 3226">I have purchased the burning wheel and I think it is a very good game but is focused on a particular style of play with certain ramifications that differ from say D&D 3.X.I am somewhat biased as I havent played a fantasty RPG in awhile and bought 3.0 and some 3.5 books (ok actually a lot of books) and after so many modifications realized that what D&D does really well (fantasy superheroes)  is not the type of game that I enjoy at this time (might again in the future though).  While D20 and D&D with enough modifications can play most styles it does not play them all particularly well.  So I went back to Rolemaster...and then Burning Wheel caught my eye.It does certain things well.  It has a dangerous but not always deadly combat system, it makes you want to avoid fights (certain D&D mods can do similar of course), it does not have the huge difference between beginning and advanced characters while still allowing for good advancement.  Its magic system is very powerful and deadly without being completely pervasive to the story (due the inherent dangers of it).But it is reallly driven by its mechanics to interwine the story to the characters.  Everything in the story is mechanically advanced using the background and beliefs of the characters (once again with some mods you could probably do the same with D&D), but this is intrinsic to BW.It is not a perfect system, but for a particular type of Fantasy RPG or type of gaming experience its mechanics do certain things well. I do not think things are done different for the sake of difference, I personally dont believe that particular criticism is valid (you obviously disagree).  I believe that it inputs certain elements of drama in places where I would want to see them and abstracts things (and it is written into the mechanics) in parts of the game that I like.Now once again I am sort of biased as I have have grown to dislike enough parts of the D&D ruleset that it is no longer a game that I enjoy (which kind of sux as i used to really enjoy it when i played AD&D and 2nd edition) so my arguments need to be taken with that in mind.IN summary...it has definite different types of mechanics from D&D...though probably stuff that could be modified to make D&D play similar to BW (which is basically what i had done in the past until i found BW) but BW does this particular type of game which I wish to run and my players play, better than a modified version of D&D. On the other hand BW does certain types of games ipoorly to very poorly (large combats, advancement from lowly guy to super warrior, dungeon crawls).  I know a lot of people hate the forge but one good piece of advice is....use the right game systems to run the right types of games....there is not a one shoe fits all....Why am i on this board? Because though i dont play D20 and probably wont for awhile if ever...people here have some absolutely fantastic ideas that i can steal for many types of games..</blockquote>

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