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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 2792606" data-attributes="member: 13892">Anybody familiar with the books wouldn't need to have examples of mechancial support for tactical gaming cited word for word, which is why I think you must have less familiarity with the books than you claim. At any rate, though, it's not my point to prove - it was a rebuttal to your assertion that D&D provided no mechanical support for player goals. A point you have not yet produced any evidence to support. It might not be what you look for, but as billions of dollars in income genrated worldwide have proven, it is what an overwhelming majority of D&D players look for. You keep making the argument that because you don't play D&D for tactics, then nobody must. Let's see you back up that claim with evidence. I honestly don't think that it can be done. I find it funny that you burst into this thread making entirely unsupported claims about D&D's failure to facilitate certain styles of play, and felt that you should be taken seriously - yet suddenly, people who refute those claims on the grounds of common knowledge must cite page numbers and quote text to be taken seriously. If that isn't the height of prentention so far exhibited in this thread, I don't know what is. So, who isn't walking the walk? I'll strike a deal. Show me yours and I'll show you mine. When you can cite a page number in a recognized authoritative text that proves D&D doesn't support a tactical play style, I'll cite a page number... well, let's up the ante... I'll cite five pages in the SRD that exemplify that play style being implemented in actual design. And I'll even go one better... If you can cite a page number in a recognized authoritative text that proves your assertion that people don't play D&D because of an emphasis on tactical gameplay, I'll link to an entire forum's worth of threads (i.e., hundreds) dedicated specifically to tactical character builds, spell casting, and combat in D&D. Put your money where your mouth is. If you can.</blockquote>

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