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<blockquote data-quote="kenobi65" data-source="post: 2707025" data-attributes="member: 1515"><p>I never played Talislanta, so I can't comment directly; while it's a fantasy RPG, I don't think it had much, if any, real thematic or game-design connection to either MtG or D&D.</p><p></p><p>As far as Talislanta vs. MtG: yes, they were published by the same company, but, as far as I can tell, were developed *completely* independently. Talislanta had already been in print for years before MtG came out (the 3rd edition of Talislanta has a 1992 publication date, a year before MtG).</p><p></p><p>I've never read anything to indicate that Richard Garfield (Magic's creator) was even a serious RPG player, much less an RPG designer. From what I remember of MtG's history, after his initial rebuff at WotC (IIRC, the game he'd originally proposed was RoboRally), he went off and designed MtG independently, then brought it back to WotC. </p><p></p><p>As far as Talislanta vs. 3E D&D...possible, I suppose, but, again, you need to keep the history in mind. Before MtG, WotC was a little, "Fred-in-the-shed" RPG publisher. When MtG exploded, WotC actually got *out* of the RPG business, to focus on CCGs -- as part of shutting down their RPG division, they sold off Talislanta. Within a year or so after that (IIRC), TSR had gone bankrupt, and WotC then got back into the RPG business by buying TSR.</p><p></p><p>(One other possible connection between Talislanta and D&D: Jonathan Tweet is listed as one of the primary designers of the 3rd edition Talislanta book...and he, of course, was one of the primary designers of 3E D&D.)</p><p></p><p>(Edit: I found reviews of 2nd and 3rd Edition Talislanta on rpg.net. Mechanically, it does sound like Talislanta might have some connections to 3E D&D, focusing on the d20 mechanic. Thematically, the game sounds fairly different from either D&D or MtG.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_4014.html" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_4014.html</a></p><p><a href="http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_1416.html" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_1416.html</a> )</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenobi65, post: 2707025, member: 1515"] I never played Talislanta, so I can't comment directly; while it's a fantasy RPG, I don't think it had much, if any, real thematic or game-design connection to either MtG or D&D. As far as Talislanta vs. MtG: yes, they were published by the same company, but, as far as I can tell, were developed *completely* independently. Talislanta had already been in print for years before MtG came out (the 3rd edition of Talislanta has a 1992 publication date, a year before MtG). I've never read anything to indicate that Richard Garfield (Magic's creator) was even a serious RPG player, much less an RPG designer. From what I remember of MtG's history, after his initial rebuff at WotC (IIRC, the game he'd originally proposed was RoboRally), he went off and designed MtG independently, then brought it back to WotC. As far as Talislanta vs. 3E D&D...possible, I suppose, but, again, you need to keep the history in mind. Before MtG, WotC was a little, "Fred-in-the-shed" RPG publisher. When MtG exploded, WotC actually got *out* of the RPG business, to focus on CCGs -- as part of shutting down their RPG division, they sold off Talislanta. Within a year or so after that (IIRC), TSR had gone bankrupt, and WotC then got back into the RPG business by buying TSR. (One other possible connection between Talislanta and D&D: Jonathan Tweet is listed as one of the primary designers of the 3rd edition Talislanta book...and he, of course, was one of the primary designers of 3E D&D.) (Edit: I found reviews of 2nd and 3rd Edition Talislanta on rpg.net. Mechanically, it does sound like Talislanta might have some connections to 3E D&D, focusing on the d20 mechanic. Thematically, the game sounds fairly different from either D&D or MtG. [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_4014.html[/url] [url]http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_1416.html[/url] ) [/QUOTE]
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