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<blockquote data-quote="GuJiaXian" data-source="post: 5235489" data-attributes="member: 54614">I've been away from 4E for some time. Our gaming group didn't like it much, and in the meantime we've played 3.x, Pathfinder, and a number of non-D&amp;D-related systems. Now, however, I've convinced them to sit down and try 4E again.And WotC tosses out this &quot;not 4.5E!&quot; set of products.Now, I really don't care if the new Essentials line is 4.5E or not. I have tons of 4E books (and a DDI subscription that's been largely unused for a very long time). My question is this: are the Essentials materials a supplement to what I already own (as in, new character options and such), or will these books technically &quot;replace&quot; what's already been done? The descriptions of the products seem somewhat ambiguous about this: one place will state that the class options, for example, are just that: new class options. However, another place will say that with Essentials out, you'll be making minor changes to your character (except for the Wizard, who has major changes).So, if I start a 4E campaign in the near future but still want &quot;future product support,&quot; will I need to expect to tweak rules here and there to keep things in line, or am I good simply using what I have currently and buying new products when and where I want to?[edit]So, I skimmed the first page of that massive thread in the general forums about this subject. I'm still confused, and now I'm left wondering if my existing 4E core rulebooks are about to become out of date. The WotC &quot;press release&quot; about the Essentials line even says that you can play your old classes as-is (without the new Essentials changes), except for the wizard, whose encounter powers gain miss effects. That means that the PHB that I have is now out-of-date in a major way. Unless I maintain a DDI subscription, I won't have access to the &quot;corrected&quot; wizard unless I buy the new Essentials book. Color me annoyed.Of course, I might be completely missing the point here. If I am, please correct me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GuJiaXian, post: 5235489, member: 54614"] I've been away from 4E for some time. Our gaming group didn't like it much, and in the meantime we've played 3.x, Pathfinder, and a number of non-D&D-related systems. Now, however, I've convinced them to sit down and try 4E again. And WotC tosses out this "not 4.5E!" set of products. Now, I really don't care if the new Essentials line is 4.5E or not. I have tons of 4E books (and a DDI subscription that's been largely unused for a very long time). My question is this: are the Essentials materials a supplement to what I already own (as in, new character options and such), or will these books technically "replace" what's already been done? The descriptions of the products seem somewhat ambiguous about this: one place will state that the class options, for example, are just that: new class options. However, another place will say that with Essentials out, you'll be making minor changes to your character (except for the Wizard, who has major changes). So, if I start a 4E campaign in the near future but still want "future product support," will I need to expect to tweak rules here and there to keep things in line, or am I good simply using what I have currently and buying new products when and where I want to? [edit] So, I skimmed the first page of that massive thread in the general forums about this subject. I'm still confused, and now I'm left wondering if my existing 4E core rulebooks are about to become out of date. The WotC "press release" about the Essentials line even says that you can play your old classes as-is (without the new Essentials changes), [I]except for the wizard, whose encounter powers gain miss effects[/I]. That means that the PHB that I have is now out-of-date in a major way. Unless I maintain a DDI subscription, I won't have access to the "corrected" wizard unless I buy the new Essentials book. Color me annoyed. Of course, I might be completely missing the point here. If I am, please correct me. [/QUOTE]

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