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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3177310" data-attributes="member: 22779">Trolling back up the thread a bit.Why are you uncomfortable with the idea of servants?&nbsp; It is certainly fitting with the setting.&nbsp; Many, many fantasy heroes had mooks with them.&nbsp; Conan had a pretty decent leadership score - granted, it kept getting knocked down 'cos he got all his followers and cohorts killed - but he still rarely trooped off on his own.Since the cohort is given to me by a feat that I choose to take, screwing me over by having my cohort do something against my interests is hardly fair.&nbsp; We don't suddenly have PC's wands that they crafted themselves spontaneously combust.&nbsp; I would be very, very angry if a DM decided that my cohort was going to screw me over.&nbsp; I would also be truly angry if my cohort was better than me.Now, don't take that to mean that the cohort should be useless.&nbsp; If I'm a fighter and I take a cleric cohort, I expect the cleric to be a better caster than me, of course.&nbsp; But, I don't expect the cleric to be able to outfight me, have more hit points, better AC and know all the answers.An NPC is fine.&nbsp; I've run them and had DM's who've run them.&nbsp; Groovy.&nbsp; A DMPC is a bad thing IME.&nbsp; Look, one of the worst things you can do is bring in a Mary Sue character.&nbsp; That's just bad for everyone.&nbsp; A DMPC is a Mary Sue.&nbsp; If he's not, then he's just an NPC.An NPC cleric brought into a group that needs a healer is fine.&nbsp; An NPC cleric that is 5 levels higher than the party, outfitted to the gills and has access to resources far beyond the party is a VERY BAD THING.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3177310, member: 22779"] Trolling back up the thread a bit. Why are you uncomfortable with the idea of servants? It is certainly fitting with the setting. Many, many fantasy heroes had mooks with them. Conan had a pretty decent leadership score - granted, it kept getting knocked down 'cos he got all his followers and cohorts killed - but he still rarely trooped off on his own. Since the cohort is given to me by a feat that I choose to take, screwing me over by having my cohort do something against my interests is hardly fair. We don't suddenly have PC's wands that they crafted themselves spontaneously combust. I would be very, very angry if a DM decided that my cohort was going to screw me over. I would also be truly angry if my cohort was better than me. Now, don't take that to mean that the cohort should be useless. If I'm a fighter and I take a cleric cohort, I expect the cleric to be a better caster than me, of course. But, I don't expect the cleric to be able to outfight me, have more hit points, better AC and know all the answers. An NPC is fine. I've run them and had DM's who've run them. Groovy. A DMPC is a bad thing IME. Look, one of the worst things you can do is bring in a Mary Sue character. That's just bad for everyone. A DMPC is a Mary Sue. If he's not, then he's just an NPC. An NPC cleric brought into a group that needs a healer is fine. An NPC cleric that is 5 levels higher than the party, outfitted to the gills and has access to resources far beyond the party is a VERY BAD THING. [/QUOTE]

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