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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3177486" data-attributes="member: 957">I'm curious if you can clarify that a little.I've had bad experiences in the distant past with DMPCs and have a pretty negative attitude toward them.I would certainly say that I do not use them when I DM.However, I have certainly had npcs that ran with the party for extended periods.A few examples include a very important but fragile and combat useless sage that the party had to protect across a string of minor quests for information, a small team of soldiers sent to support the party (all about 2 to 3 levels below party level and officially subordinate), and an evil semi-immortal whose survival depended on the PCs achieving their goals.&nbsp; They ran with the party, so according to post 40 this makes them DMPCs as you define them.&nbsp; Yet they never had a status or position of a PC, thus making them npcs.&nbsp; In my mind the latter answer is certainly correct.&nbsp; In each case, I as DM can honestly say I never thought of any of these characters as &quot;mine&quot;.&nbsp; I RPed them as I would any other npc, with their own interests and goals.&nbsp; But this was always a plot device to provide action for the real PCs.&nbsp; In each case it was fine with me if the npcs succeeded or failed, and the determination of this was almost completely in the hands of the PCs.Do you consider them DMPCs?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 3177486, member: 957"] I'm curious if you can clarify that a little. I've had bad experiences in the distant past with DMPCs and have a pretty negative attitude toward them. I would certainly say that I do not use them when I DM. However, I have certainly had npcs that ran with the party for extended periods. A few examples include a very important but fragile and combat useless sage that the party had to protect across a string of minor quests for information, a small team of soldiers sent to support the party (all about 2 to 3 levels below party level and officially subordinate), and an evil semi-immortal whose survival depended on the PCs achieving their goals. They ran with the party, so according to post 40 this makes them DMPCs as you define them. Yet they never had a status or position of a PC, thus making them npcs. In my mind the latter answer is certainly correct. In each case, I as DM can honestly say I never thought of any of these characters as "mine". I RPed them as I would any other npc, with their own interests and goals. But this was always a plot device to provide action for the real PCs. In each case it was fine with me if the npcs succeeded or failed, and the determination of this was almost completely in the hands of the PCs. Do you consider them DMPCs? [/QUOTE]

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