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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 3177643" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>Not really.</p><p></p><p>I would consider an NPC a DMPC if it could, and is intended to, fill the role of a PC in the party.</p><p></p><p>(Of course, some PCs don't do that, BID).</p><p></p><p>Right now, I am running my wife and oldest daughter through a mini dungeon. The have a druid and a rogue/wizard. I thew in a ranger and a bard. The bard is sort of a plot element (actually not in the party right now, having been kidnapped by the orcs whose lair they are now investigating, but once rescued, he'll participate.) But the ranger is totally there to lend combat and skill check support.</p><p></p><p>The ranger's arguable... I might drop him and not maintain him. If I do bother to advance him with the party and run them with him again, I'd consider him a DMPC.</p><p></p><p>In my last campaign, the party lacked an arcanist of any sort, and needed some divination, so I made a seer/chakra savant to fill the bill. It was a character I liked. He filled a role in the party. I advanced him with the party. He was pretty clearly a DMPC to me. Of course, I never let him steal the spotlight, but there were certainly a few occasions when he proved himself handy to have around (like throwing up a timely intellect fortress.) I don't think I was "wrong" to run him in the party, as some are insisting in the purely negative context of the word.</p><p></p><p>I'm not looking for a cut and dried definition of DMPC, like you seem to want to. I'm just saying that its not functionally equivalent to "any NPC" and it's perfectly possible to run them in a fashion that is good for game play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 3177643, member: 172"] Not really. I would consider an NPC a DMPC if it could, and is intended to, fill the role of a PC in the party. (Of course, some PCs don't do that, BID). Right now, I am running my wife and oldest daughter through a mini dungeon. The have a druid and a rogue/wizard. I thew in a ranger and a bard. The bard is sort of a plot element (actually not in the party right now, having been kidnapped by the orcs whose lair they are now investigating, but once rescued, he'll participate.) But the ranger is totally there to lend combat and skill check support. The ranger's arguable... I might drop him and not maintain him. If I do bother to advance him with the party and run them with him again, I'd consider him a DMPC. In my last campaign, the party lacked an arcanist of any sort, and needed some divination, so I made a seer/chakra savant to fill the bill. It was a character I liked. He filled a role in the party. I advanced him with the party. He was pretty clearly a DMPC to me. Of course, I never let him steal the spotlight, but there were certainly a few occasions when he proved himself handy to have around (like throwing up a timely intellect fortress.) I don't think I was "wrong" to run him in the party, as some are insisting in the purely negative context of the word. I'm not looking for a cut and dried definition of DMPC, like you seem to want to. I'm just saying that its not functionally equivalent to "any NPC" and it's perfectly possible to run them in a fashion that is good for game play. [/QUOTE]
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