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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 3179739" data-attributes="member: 9213">So if the NPC is constantly with the PC's, helping them fight during encounters they are scene stealing? Sorry but that's a bit of an extreme view and one that I don't agree with. If the NPC is out shining the PC's in those encounters then yeah, I agree. You're implying simply by being useful that they are.  So wait a minute, if the party isnt inclined to use divination spells or are the worst clue readers ever, a NPC who tends to steer them in the right direction or a trusted source of information is a scene stealer? Once again we're in disagreement here and that may have to do with playstyles as well. I'm a DM that likes to keep things moving in a forward momentum unless the PC's are having fun going on a tangent then I tend to let things play out. But if my players need to move forward and they need information to do so and seem at a loss I don't think think that there's anything wrong with them consulting with someone that they know knows more than they do.  I'm trying to entertain my players. But also as importantly I'm trying to enjoy myself as well. It's a delicate balancing act that needs to be acknowledged and personally as both a DM and player for over 20 years I've seen alot more selfish players than I have selfish DM's. So I tend to cut DM's a bit more slack when it comes to things like this. As a DM, I'd just as soon as NOT run a game at all than to run a game for players that are selfish and really don't take the DM's enjoyment into consideration as well.Another thing that people aren't taking into consideration is that for me at least, trying to find out what players want in a game is like trying to pull teeth sometimes. The amount of times that I've gotten "I'm good with whatever" or "whatever you want to do" dwarfs the amount of times I've gotten any real input. Even when there's things that they obviously dont like (I've learned to read players for things like that and try to make changes accordingly) they don't tend to speak up. Is it passive aggressive gamer syndrome? because I'm certain that they complain to someone. Basically, what I'm saying is this if you as player dont like the DMPC let the DM know, just straight up "Your DMPC is hogging the spotlight that is rightfully ours", if he doesn't take it into consideration then , seriously, Just walk. Like I said I'd rather not play than to play in a game I'm not having fun with. Otherwise coming onto a message board and complaining about it really does nothing to resolve the issue at hand. Unless your DM is on the board as well. The above wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, it's just a general observation.</blockquote>

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