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<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 531621" data-attributes="member: 1279"><p>First of all, just to get under P'cat's skin, I must point out that 1E sucked, and sucked hard. After all, goblins and kobolds were thought to be of lower than average intelligence. Okay, they still are, but at least their official stats are '10' in 3E. </p><p></p><p>Also, ogres did d10 points of damage with their big-ass clubs. Someone with Ogre Strength (18/00) got +3 to hit and +6 to damage, of course -- doing more damage with a simple *punch* than an ogre did with an average swing. </p><p></p><p>That being said, 1E (and 2E) had something going for it that 3E does not, and I miss it terribly. LOW was good on skill checks, HIGH on saving throws. There was nothing like asking a player to roll a die . . . he'd roll a '1' or a '20' . . . and then look up at you with a mix of hope and abject terror in his eye. For he had either made an INCREDIBLE save/skill check . . . or he had just failed to duck/slipped on an icy patch and fallen to his death/turned to stone, depending on whether it was a '1' (botched save) or '20' (botched skill check). </p><p></p><p>Ah. Those were the days. It's suckiness aside, I miss 1E more than a bit -- there's something to be said for making up rules on the fly. 3E seems to be a helluva lot more regimented than 1E ever was, and that's a shame. </p><p></p><p>And Haste was a lot more balanced when it aged you a year <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 531621, member: 1279"] First of all, just to get under P'cat's skin, I must point out that 1E sucked, and sucked hard. After all, goblins and kobolds were thought to be of lower than average intelligence. Okay, they still are, but at least their official stats are '10' in 3E. Also, ogres did d10 points of damage with their big-ass clubs. Someone with Ogre Strength (18/00) got +3 to hit and +6 to damage, of course -- doing more damage with a simple *punch* than an ogre did with an average swing. That being said, 1E (and 2E) had something going for it that 3E does not, and I miss it terribly. LOW was good on skill checks, HIGH on saving throws. There was nothing like asking a player to roll a die . . . he'd roll a '1' or a '20' . . . and then look up at you with a mix of hope and abject terror in his eye. For he had either made an INCREDIBLE save/skill check . . . or he had just failed to duck/slipped on an icy patch and fallen to his death/turned to stone, depending on whether it was a '1' (botched save) or '20' (botched skill check). Ah. Those were the days. It's suckiness aside, I miss 1E more than a bit -- there's something to be said for making up rules on the fly. 3E seems to be a helluva lot more regimented than 1E ever was, and that's a shame. And Haste was a lot more balanced when it aged you a year :). [/QUOTE]
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