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<blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 2064031" data-attributes="member: 6957">I had some problems with the 1e DMG.Random tables for things that didn't need to be randomized. DUngeons, random gemstones with no connection to either wealth of the owner nor the adventure level.Rules for using Boot Hill in AD&amp;D.And Gary Gygax telling everybody to only use [official[/i] AD&amp;D Miniatures, that all others were inappropriate. Never mind that the &quot;official&quot; figures of the time looked worse than most of their competition. (At the time they were made by MiniFigs.) This is the one thing that annoyed me above all others. D&amp;D has often had problems in regards to miniatures... While I neither play nor purchase D&amp;D Miniatures it seems like they have found something that reaches a wide audience this time. I really liked some of the Ral Partha D&amp;D miniatures line, but thought that others (the blister pack adventurers) were as exciting as department store dummies.Flip side, there were cool things too, sometimes even the random tables I complained about above. I used the random tables, but never to randomize anything. (Hmmm, I need a cheap gem... *Rustle, Rustle* A how about a spiricule?) The random dungeon on the other hand could go hang.Really nifty cover. (I liked the covers for both the PHP and the DMG, but not the Monster Manual. I would love to see an edition of 3e using the 1e covers!)Parts actually used regularly? Experience table, wandering monsters, magic items, you know, the same stuff that is used regulary in 3e...Coolest part shared between the two? The combat and dungeoneering example is the same on in both books! What a cool in joke.Summary: I liked both books about equally, they are both very definitely the DMG.For those who loved the random tables in 1e, you may want to find Gary Gygax's World Builder, which is full of such things. Not my cuppa, but others really like it.The Auld Grump</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheAuldGrump, post: 2064031, member: 6957"] I had some problems with the 1e DMG. Random tables for things that didn't need to be randomized. DUngeons, random gemstones with no connection to either wealth of the owner nor the adventure level. Rules for using Boot Hill in AD&D. And Gary Gygax telling everybody to only use [official[/i] AD&D Miniatures, that all others were inappropriate. Never mind that the "official" figures of the time looked worse than most of their competition. (At the time they were made by MiniFigs.) This is the one thing that annoyed me above all others. D&D has often had problems in regards to miniatures... While I neither play nor purchase D&D Miniatures it seems like they have found something that reaches a wide audience this time. I really liked some of the Ral Partha D&D miniatures line, but thought that others (the blister pack adventurers) were as exciting as department store dummies. Flip side, there were cool things too, sometimes even the random tables I complained about above. I used the random tables, but never to randomize anything. (Hmmm, I need a cheap gem... *Rustle, Rustle* A how about a spiricule?) The random dungeon on the other hand could go hang. Really nifty cover. (I liked the covers for both the PHP and the DMG, but not the Monster Manual. I would love to see an edition of 3e using the 1e covers!) Parts actually used regularly? Experience table, wandering monsters, magic items, you know, the same stuff that is used regulary in 3e... Coolest part shared between the two? The combat and dungeoneering example is the same on in both books! What a cool in joke. Summary: I liked both books about equally, they are both very definitely the DMG. For those who loved the random tables in 1e, you may want to find [i]Gary Gygax's World Builder[/i], which is full of such things. Not my cuppa, but others really like it. The Auld Grump [/QUOTE]

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