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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 9257478" data-attributes="member: 28487">I am inclined to agree, despite wanting to like the journey system it is a little too much and is a journey system from a haven to another haven. The rules in D&D should cover mundane journeys, where one wants to get from A to B but there is a question of time and resources.If one is travelling the Risen Road from Elturel to Baldur's Gate there should be little risk, it is a major trade route. The encounters could be delays or you meet and perhaps aid someone that provides a contact in Baldur's Gate.A different kind of journey is where the travel is from the village to the temple of badness and you need to get there before the rising of the moon in the second night of the full moon or the children will be sacrificed. In this case, one want to know, can the party get there on time and fully rested.One might spot a wonder on the way but that is not going to be of immediate interest.There is actual exploration, either to see what is there or to find the location of a McGuffin and wonder and discovery are central to that.The problem is neither the game rules or adventure design help in educating DM on this topic. I have spent years figuring this out. I was familiar with old school exploration but not interested in the bookkeeping involved.In my opinion the DM advice needs to lay out a couple of things.1) Journeying can be simply skipped, if that is not something the DM and/or party is interested in. One can simply narrate the journey.2) Journeys between well known location or along well travelled routes do not really fail and there is no need to use the traditional random encounter model. Instead make checks to find accommodation (Cha), with failure meaning that accommodation costs more or (Con ) to cover the wilder section of the road in time to reach a village. Failure meaning having to camp out or take a level of exhaustion to make it to a settlement.Instead of random encounters roll for complications, complications can be: bad weather causing delays. An actual encounter. An opportunity to aid a fellow traveller. A side quest at a settlement.3) Into the unknown, Here preparation should matter. Complications get more complicated. That is, intelligent locals might take offence at the party on their territory. One might discover strange ruins or portals to elsewhere.edit: A simple method for tracking time and using to roll for complication. I am thinking of trying out the Tension Pool as suggested by the Angry DM.</blockquote>

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