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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CreamCloud0" data-source="post: 9263870" data-attributes="member: 7034710">you miss my point, i'm saying if 5e had been built up from the ground roughly as it is but it had been the first edition of DnD without all the 'classic DnD traditions' influencing it, with other classes like sorcerer and warlock around rather than just the wizard as the sole arcane caster around to recieve it, would the designers who would've been making it chosen to give the wizard fireball that time around? or would they of thought 'no i don't think this really fits this class's studious and intelectual themes'edit: or to put it another way, which of these class premise's sounds most apropriate for the guy slinging magical explosions?-the one who channels raw magic power from their blood-the one who bargined with an extraplanar entity for magical power-the one who learned power through extensive study and researchi mean, before we get to that, fireball wouldn't even be the abnormally powerful (for it's level) standout spell that it currently is without the previous editions influencing how it was designed...</blockquote>