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<blockquote data-quote="!DWolf" data-source="post: 8213257" data-attributes="member: 7026314">I look at how well the characters can judge their progress to determine if the players know their vp totals. Examples:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">racing across a fairly well known town with lots of landmarks they know the total.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">the PCs are traveling 1000 miles across the wilderness. They don’t know the vp total but can find out with a skill check with an appropriate lore skill and accurate maps (or in my players case hiring a navigator who will do that for them).</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">In a tense negotiation with potentially hostile natives. They don’t know the total but can use an action to find out in general how they are doing.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A mad man has hostages and the PCs need to sneak up on him and rescue the hostages. They don’t know the vp total.</li>
</ul>I also never use the term victory points or similar - I translate them into narrative terms: I say things like you are a quarter of the way there; you have traveled 35 miles - you should reach the river of burst souls at the end of the next days match, the men are ready to take the offer but the leader is going to try and hold out for just a little more, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="!DWolf, post: 8213257, member: 7026314"] I look at how well the characters can judge their progress to determine if the players know their vp totals. Examples: [LIST] [*]racing across a fairly well known town with lots of landmarks they know the total. [*]the PCs are traveling 1000 miles across the wilderness. They don’t know the vp total but can find out with a skill check with an appropriate lore skill and accurate maps (or in my players case hiring a navigator who will do that for them). [*]In a tense negotiation with potentially hostile natives. They don’t know the total but can use an action to find out in general how they are doing. [*]A mad man has hostages and the PCs need to sneak up on him and rescue the hostages. They don’t know the vp total. [/LIST] I also never use the term victory points or similar - I translate them into narrative terms: I say things like you are a quarter of the way there; you have traveled 35 miles - you should reach the river of burst souls at the end of the next days match, the men are ready to take the offer but the leader is going to try and hold out for just a little more, etc. [/QUOTE]

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