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<blockquote data-quote="DerHauptman" data-source="post: 2861716" data-attributes="member: 39988"><p>As the group once again heads into the territory of the circular arguement...Zurd shakes his head thinking to himself - </p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">You know as much as I like to talk things out and think things through this group has got to be the worst at getting anything done. </span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: Sienna">We definitely just need to anoint someone leader with the authority to make some decisions! Hell, at this point I'd even submit to someone else just to get things going. However, the obvious choice for leadership is me! I have the skills. [COLOR]</span></em><span style="color: Sienna"> </span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna">After Kol's last input Zurd speaks up - </span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">People! Listen to us, we go round and round in circles about the simplest of issues almost to the point to accomplishing nothing. </span> </span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">Lets please get this over with so we can move on...The votes look like this so far; </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">With regards to a healer; if we could find one that's not a preachy pain in the ass, I will definitely change my vote to bringing one along. That makes it a conditional 4-2 vote in favor of going to Ossirus for a healer. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">As for the immediate selling of the shield it seems (as I understood everyone's comments) that Lokin and Kongu are for selling the shield and getting some healing potions but only if we are not going to get a healer for the group. The other 4 seem to want to keep a hold of the magic item - with the understanding that it will be held against Lokin's future shares of treasure unless it doesn't work out fairly for the group in the long run. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">So that places us heading to Ossirus to find a healer. I say we give in two days in town and leave if we don't agree on someone or find any healers. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">If we can not get a healer or agree on one then we sell the shield get some healing method be it a wand, which I think you can use Kongu, if I am not mistaken or positions depending on how much we can get for the shield. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">Ok, now I am going to say something here and please, hear me out before you come to any judgments - I say this without any prejudice or machinations on my own part <span style="color: White">(OOC: Any sense motives on Zurd will reveal he's being honest) </span> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">I think we are sorely in need of investing one of us with leadership ability. We need to invest someone with the leadership role or we are doomed to this round -about way</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">of doing things forever. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">I will be glad to continue my role as face man considering my gift of persuasiveness but I don't equate that necessarily with leadership. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">Actually, since I am sure you are all thinking here he comes again with a bid for leadership - I will take myself out of the running altogether since it was my suggestion that way there is no appearance of a power play on my part.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">We all know our roles in combat but we just need to give someone the authority to make some decisions so we don't get bogged down in a ton of conversation over every little decision. I mean like the - should we use the rations or not dilemma, should we camp or head back to town, left or right at the hall way etc. These are not things that need a good deal of debate and had we trusted someone with this authority we'd have not had some of the issues we've had. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">Outside of combat we need someone we all trust to just make a frigging decision sometimes so we can get on with it. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">While I'd be happy to do it I honestly think Lokin would to the most level headed job at it. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: White">Zurd looks at Lokin with a slight bow, I will support you in this position. </span> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">I honestly think Lokin is the best man for the job. He is level headed, and his non-specialized role in the group puts him in the center of our defenses. The rest of us have defined roles spells, traps, or even in Kol's case pure rage but Lokin is in the middle holding the defense together. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">We need someone to take charge folks, we are becoming paralyzed by our indecisiveness. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">What say you all to this? </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">I say for now we invest Lokin with leadership - with the understanding that he can be voted out out at any time. Anyone can call for that vote. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">Then I say we head to Ossirus, get a frigging priest and move out back to the complex. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"><span style="color: Sienna">All this debate is making even me irritable. I am ready for action my friends!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna">[sblock=OOC] I know we are all just playing out characters personalities and its not been all bad so far but honestly, while Zurd might have tried to push for the leadership role more and more I am willing divorce him from that character point so we can get someone into the driver's seat so we can get down to business. </span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna">We have IMO, spent a lot of down time debating circular topics when we could have been back at the complex by now. Please don't take that statement or any others I have made as me "knowing it all" or preaching because the debates have been entertaining and honestly I can have fun playing the game just like we have been. </span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p><p><span style="color: Sienna">I am just throwing out my two cents to see what the consensus is - do we just wanna concede a little IC to gain some speed play wise or are we ok with this. I will go along with the majority. I am ready to pick up the pace a little. I am curious what you all would like as well. Orsal, I think your opinion is important here as well since its your game - are you comfortable witht he pace or what? [/sblock]</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DerHauptman, post: 2861716, member: 39988"] As the group once again heads into the territory of the circular arguement...Zurd shakes his head thinking to himself - [I][COLOR=Sienna]You know as much as I like to talk things out and think things through this group has got to be the worst at getting anything done. We definitely just need to anoint someone leader with the authority to make some decisions! Hell, at this point I'd even submit to someone else just to get things going. However, the obvious choice for leadership is me! I have the skills. [COLOR][/COLOR][/I][COLOR=Sienna] After Kol's last input Zurd speaks up - [COLOR=Sienna]People! Listen to us, we go round and round in circles about the simplest of issues almost to the point to accomplishing nothing. [/COLOR] [COLOR=Sienna]Lets please get this over with so we can move on...The votes look like this so far; With regards to a healer; if we could find one that's not a preachy pain in the ass, I will definitely change my vote to bringing one along. That makes it a conditional 4-2 vote in favor of going to Ossirus for a healer. As for the immediate selling of the shield it seems (as I understood everyone's comments) that Lokin and Kongu are for selling the shield and getting some healing potions but only if we are not going to get a healer for the group. The other 4 seem to want to keep a hold of the magic item - with the understanding that it will be held against Lokin's future shares of treasure unless it doesn't work out fairly for the group in the long run. So that places us heading to Ossirus to find a healer. I say we give in two days in town and leave if we don't agree on someone or find any healers. If we can not get a healer or agree on one then we sell the shield get some healing method be it a wand, which I think you can use Kongu, if I am not mistaken or positions depending on how much we can get for the shield. Ok, now I am going to say something here and please, hear me out before you come to any judgments - I say this without any prejudice or machinations on my own part [COLOR=White](OOC: Any sense motives on Zurd will reveal he's being honest) [/COLOR] I think we are sorely in need of investing one of us with leadership ability. We need to invest someone with the leadership role or we are doomed to this round -about way of doing things forever. I will be glad to continue my role as face man considering my gift of persuasiveness but I don't equate that necessarily with leadership. Actually, since I am sure you are all thinking here he comes again with a bid for leadership - I will take myself out of the running altogether since it was my suggestion that way there is no appearance of a power play on my part. We all know our roles in combat but we just need to give someone the authority to make some decisions so we don't get bogged down in a ton of conversation over every little decision. I mean like the - should we use the rations or not dilemma, should we camp or head back to town, left or right at the hall way etc. These are not things that need a good deal of debate and had we trusted someone with this authority we'd have not had some of the issues we've had. Outside of combat we need someone we all trust to just make a frigging decision sometimes so we can get on with it. While I'd be happy to do it I honestly think Lokin would to the most level headed job at it. [COLOR=White]Zurd looks at Lokin with a slight bow, I will support you in this position. [/COLOR] I honestly think Lokin is the best man for the job. He is level headed, and his non-specialized role in the group puts him in the center of our defenses. The rest of us have defined roles spells, traps, or even in Kol's case pure rage but Lokin is in the middle holding the defense together. We need someone to take charge folks, we are becoming paralyzed by our indecisiveness. What say you all to this? I say for now we invest Lokin with leadership - with the understanding that he can be voted out out at any time. Anyone can call for that vote. Then I say we head to Ossirus, get a frigging priest and move out back to the complex. All this debate is making even me irritable. I am ready for action my friends![/COLOR] [sblock=OOC] I know we are all just playing out characters personalities and its not been all bad so far but honestly, while Zurd might have tried to push for the leadership role more and more I am willing divorce him from that character point so we can get someone into the driver's seat so we can get down to business. We have IMO, spent a lot of down time debating circular topics when we could have been back at the complex by now. Please don't take that statement or any others I have made as me "knowing it all" or preaching because the debates have been entertaining and honestly I can have fun playing the game just like we have been. I am just throwing out my two cents to see what the consensus is - do we just wanna concede a little IC to gain some speed play wise or are we ok with this. I will go along with the majority. I am ready to pick up the pace a little. I am curious what you all would like as well. Orsal, I think your opinion is important here as well since its your game - are you comfortable witht he pace or what? [/sblock][/color] [/QUOTE]
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