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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5687814" data-attributes="member: 463">No, they are doing both very effectively - the mark of effectiveness being that they are doing it so well, they no longer need to worry about it!If extended rests were really the gamebreaker people here say, I couldn't DM or play 4e.&nbsp; Anyway, how I do it:&nbsp; PCs are of course free to rest anytime, just as I as DM am free to have the captives sacrificed and/or the PCs ambushed in their sleep should they choose to do so.&nbsp; Of course sensible PCs don't sleep in the dungeon, more often it's like the game last Saturday:Me:&quot;You've now fought your way through three deadly battles with cultists.&nbsp; Through that door lies the ultimate foe - the High Priest and his minions (I didn't mention the giant crocodile)... Looking at the door , you know that if you go through it now, you may die.&nbsp; Are you gonna do it?!&quot;Players:&quot;HELL YEAH!!!!&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />Contrary to my expectations they actually won, too...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5687814, member: 463"] No, they are doing both very effectively - the mark of effectiveness being that they are doing it so well, they no longer need to worry about it! If extended rests were really the gamebreaker people here say, I couldn't DM or play 4e. Anyway, how I do it: PCs are of course free to rest anytime, just as I as DM am free to have the captives sacrificed and/or the PCs ambushed in their sleep should they choose to do so. Of course sensible PCs don't sleep in the dungeon, more often it's like the game last Saturday: Me: "You've now fought your way through three deadly battles with cultists. Through that door lies the ultimate foe - the High Priest and his minions (I didn't mention the giant crocodile)... Looking at the door , you know that if you go through it now, you may die. Are you gonna do it?!" Players: "HELL YEAH!!!!" :) :cool::cool: Contrary to my expectations they actually won, too... [/QUOTE]

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