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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 6875078" data-attributes="member: 4348">I figure that the difference of opinion in the thread isn't that we disagree on the applications, but on whether something is official or not.In this, I imagine we are at an impasse.I won't accept something official if it's simply someone saying that's how they feel.  It needs to be spelled out specifically in the rulebooks (page and paragraph are preferred).  That hasn't happening, and I don't foresee it occurring, which means I'm not going to be convinced.On the otherhand, I think I almost spelled out the section and pages where what attack actions a PC can make, how they are defined, how they reference how they are defined, and even the MM which almost blatantly spells it out (but not completely) as per the PHB definitions.  If the actual rules and passages I stated and quoted aren't enough to convince someone, even if it seems to me to be completely blatant in the rulebooks, they probably wouldn't be convinced.Hence, no one is going to be convinced to switch their thinking up or that the other side is right.  That happens, it's the forums.What it boils down to is you can control (to a degree) what your interpretation of things is at your table.  I can control the interpretation that goes on (to a limited degree) at my table.  Neither one of us can really control anything outside of that.I like how 5e seems a little loose and open in the rules (though I would say if we start down the path of discounting the attack rule in regards to the PC attack action...it opens a whole can of worms in abuse towards adding multiple attacks against RAI, but that is, of course, my OWN opinion) and the DMs can interpret things how they like.I like the homebrew and houseruling emphasis of it all...but that's some of the stuff I enjoy.  Others may enjoy other applications of 5e.In the end, it's not a disagreement on how we play or use the rule at the table really, but more on whether our interpretation is official...and frankly...In the whole scheme of things...it really doesn't matter.  So, enjoy the game, play it and see it as you want, and I hope you have fun with it!I don't think there's much more for me in the thread, but enjoyed the thought provoking conversation that everyone brought up.  Adieu.</blockquote>

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