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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8144196" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Really? Are you playing a different D&D than I am?</p><p></p><p>Yes, I agree three feats (4th, 6th, and 8th) for Fighter, but unless you roll great stats, you won't max out your prime stat by 10th. And, no room for a half feat. At <em>BEST</em> with the standard array or point-buy, a PC would have no more than a 17, far from 20. A human with an extra feat would have a 16 (using the level 1 feat for a half feat) or 17 if they take one of the three feats at level 1 and use an ASI later on, and other races would be capped at 17 with just their racial ASI +2.</p><p></p><p>So, I'm not sure where you're getting the maxed out prime score, "with room for a half feat in there somewhere," because again 17 is not 20. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And you still haven't proven how <em>Reactive</em> is "broken" as you claimed. A human variant at level 4 could exploit PAM and Sentinel to keep enemies at bay if they hit on the OA for PAM completely RAW.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even with Reactive, at best you could stop two foes from attacking you. Not a big deal IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, to a point. I mean, PAM grants you an OA when an opponent enters your reach... So, I guess you could argue if the DM decides to never have an enemy melee you, then sure, completely DM dependent. But, IME, pretty much the DM likes to have PCs attacked in melee, so OA are gonna come. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Maybe not once that 18th level Cavalier is surrounded, but who knows if you have a nice DM maybe your enemies will run around you all the time provoking OAs all the time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8144196, member: 6987520"] Really? Are you playing a different D&D than I am? Yes, I agree three feats (4th, 6th, and 8th) for Fighter, but unless you roll great stats, you won't max out your prime stat by 10th. And, no room for a half feat. At [I]BEST[/I] with the standard array or point-buy, a PC would have no more than a 17, far from 20. A human with an extra feat would have a 16 (using the level 1 feat for a half feat) or 17 if they take one of the three feats at level 1 and use an ASI later on, and other races would be capped at 17 with just their racial ASI +2. So, I'm not sure where you're getting the maxed out prime score, "with room for a half feat in there somewhere," because again 17 is not 20. ;) And you still haven't proven how [I]Reactive[/I] is "broken" as you claimed. A human variant at level 4 could exploit PAM and Sentinel to keep enemies at bay if they hit on the OA for PAM completely RAW. Even with Reactive, at best you could stop two foes from attacking you. Not a big deal IMO. Well, to a point. I mean, PAM grants you an OA when an opponent enters your reach... So, I guess you could argue if the DM decides to never have an enemy melee you, then sure, completely DM dependent. But, IME, pretty much the DM likes to have PCs attacked in melee, so OA are gonna come. :) Maybe not once that 18th level Cavalier is surrounded, but who knows if you have a nice DM maybe your enemies will run around you all the time provoking OAs all the time. :D [/QUOTE]
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