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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 3253783" data-attributes="member: 762"><p>Once you restrict arcane to arcane and divine to divine you are essentially admiting that you don't think the feat was meant to go off list. </p><p></p><p>Looking at the abilities that allow a spellcaster to go off list, we can look at the Warmage and the Beguiler. Both have an "advanced learning" class feature that explicitly allows them to pick 1 spell not on their class list and add it. Both put large limitations on the spells available and both require that the spell added be considered 1 level higher. The Duskblade btw, which is in the same book as the beguiler and also has a set spell list, is notably missing this ability.</p><p></p><p>Also, intent of the designers is a pretty tough argument. Especially since you so quickly dismiss the FAQ, and its author undeniably has a better insight into intent than anyone posting here. </p><p></p><p>And why do you (and others) keep saying the benefit is so minor - at 6th level a sorcerer knows 2 2nd level spells. With this feat he can know 3. That's 50% more spells than other sorcerers of that level, hardly insignificant. A 9th level sorcerer who takes this feat will know 4 3rd level spells, instead of the usual 3; again a significant (33%) increase.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mort, post: 3253783, member: 762"] Once you restrict arcane to arcane and divine to divine you are essentially admiting that you don't think the feat was meant to go off list. Looking at the abilities that allow a spellcaster to go off list, we can look at the Warmage and the Beguiler. Both have an "advanced learning" class feature that explicitly allows them to pick 1 spell not on their class list and add it. Both put large limitations on the spells available and both require that the spell added be considered 1 level higher. The Duskblade btw, which is in the same book as the beguiler and also has a set spell list, is notably missing this ability. Also, intent of the designers is a pretty tough argument. Especially since you so quickly dismiss the FAQ, and its author undeniably has a better insight into intent than anyone posting here. And why do you (and others) keep saying the benefit is so minor - at 6th level a sorcerer knows 2 2nd level spells. With this feat he can know 3. That's 50% more spells than other sorcerers of that level, hardly insignificant. A 9th level sorcerer who takes this feat will know 4 3rd level spells, instead of the usual 3; again a significant (33%) increase. [/QUOTE]
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