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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3255009" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>Extra Spell</p><p><u>You learn one additional spell</u> at any level up to one level lower...</p><p></p><p>The underlined is the only description of the spell learned that does not describe the limitation on the level of the spell learned.</p><p></p><p>"You learn one additional spell..."</p><p></p><p>This feat does not restrict the origin of the additional spell. The sorcerer's description implies that gaining spells from outside the Sor/Wiz spell list is possible. As written, the only restrictions to the source of the additional spell are user, DM, or FAQ applied. Not that they arn't wholly valid, but their source is not from the feat nor from the PHB.</p><p></p><p>At <em>very</em> least, not for sorcerers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolute agreement from me on this opinion.</p><p></p><p>EDIT <strong>(Significant rules change)</strong>: </p><p>This is a red herring. Every new feat is a significant rules change, at least for somebody. If a feat allowed Rogues to sneak attack while blinded then the rules would have been significantly changed from insisting upon a rogue being able to see his opponent to allowing a sneak attack while the rogue cannot see his opponent. Extra Spell changes the rules concerning usual manner in which spells are learned.</p><p></p><p>EDIT #2 <strong>(FAQ)</strong>:</p><p><em>If</em> the FAQ is a direct gague of what the intent of the feat writer was, then clearly the writer did not intend for the feat to allow sorcerers or anyone to be able to select spells from outside their class spell list. This would be a very good reason why it is not explicitly allowed in the feat. </p><p></p><p>But regardless, the wording of the feat leads to the conclusion that you can choose any spell. The character's ability to cast the spell may be in quesiton, but what is not in question is that <em>any</em> spell may be chosen for the PC to learn. In the sorcerer's case, there is a clear link thusly: Extra Spell may be any spell --> spell learned --> Spells Known --> unfettered ability to cast Spells Known --> ability to cast spell learned.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3255009, member: 3929"] Extra Spell [u]You learn one additional spell[/u] at any level up to one level lower... The underlined is the only description of the spell learned that does not describe the limitation on the level of the spell learned. "You learn one additional spell..." This feat does not restrict the origin of the additional spell. The sorcerer's description implies that gaining spells from outside the Sor/Wiz spell list is possible. As written, the only restrictions to the source of the additional spell are user, DM, or FAQ applied. Not that they arn't wholly valid, but their source is not from the feat nor from the PHB. At [i]very[/i] least, not for sorcerers. Absolute agreement from me on this opinion. EDIT [b](Significant rules change)[/b]: This is a red herring. Every new feat is a significant rules change, at least for somebody. If a feat allowed Rogues to sneak attack while blinded then the rules would have been significantly changed from insisting upon a rogue being able to see his opponent to allowing a sneak attack while the rogue cannot see his opponent. Extra Spell changes the rules concerning usual manner in which spells are learned. EDIT #2 [b](FAQ)[/b]: [i]If[/i] the FAQ is a direct gague of what the intent of the feat writer was, then clearly the writer did not intend for the feat to allow sorcerers or anyone to be able to select spells from outside their class spell list. This would be a very good reason why it is not explicitly allowed in the feat. But regardless, the wording of the feat leads to the conclusion that you can choose any spell. The character's ability to cast the spell may be in quesiton, but what is not in question is that [i]any[/i] spell may be chosen for the PC to learn. In the sorcerer's case, there is a clear link thusly: Extra Spell may be any spell --> spell learned --> Spells Known --> unfettered ability to cast Spells Known --> ability to cast spell learned. [/QUOTE]
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