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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 3255104" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>So, whenever a feat does not say *anything* it can just do whatever you want?</p><p></p><p>So I can just pick up Extra Spell once, and then learn every spell in existance, since it only says, I can learn one spell (totally non-restrictive statement there; i.e. when I learn two spells I also learn one spell), but is silent whether I can also learn another spell and another spell and another spell... ? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>It's also silent about raising my BAB to 1,000. I think it does that, too? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Or how about Extend Spell?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It doesn't say there, that my Sorcerer has to use a full-round action to apply this feat, since feats overrule all general rules that are not repeated, it can just be used like this? Can it be used at all? It certainly doesn't say how it is used...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, but I certainly agree, that there are cases, where the language is contradictory, but that doesn't mean, that in *all* cases, when something is not spelled out twice or thrice, you can just ignore written rules, especially when they are not contradicted in the slightest.</p><p></p><p><strong>This is especially true, when a reading of a feat *does* contradict written rules, as opposed to another that does not.</strong></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p><p></p><p>P.S. Besides, when a Wizard can learn any spell with Extra Spell (within the given spell level and school limits, but not within the class list limits), then a Wizard can do so already without the feat and the rule for casting spells does not really apply and does not limit them in the slightest, since the normal rules for learning spells do not say anything at all about the class list either. And then, in turn, Extra Spell does not allow them to learn any spell at all, since it is generally used by Wizards to learn spells they cannot research, which by your definition rules out all spells (existing and non-existing), anyways. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>The question then remains... why is there a Wizard spell list in the first place?</p><p></p><p>For activating wands, maybe... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 3255104, member: 478"] So, whenever a feat does not say *anything* it can just do whatever you want? So I can just pick up Extra Spell once, and then learn every spell in existance, since it only says, I can learn one spell (totally non-restrictive statement there; i.e. when I learn two spells I also learn one spell), but is silent whether I can also learn another spell and another spell and another spell... ? ;) It's also silent about raising my BAB to 1,000. I think it does that, too? :p Or how about Extend Spell? It doesn't say there, that my Sorcerer has to use a full-round action to apply this feat, since feats overrule all general rules that are not repeated, it can just be used like this? Can it be used at all? It certainly doesn't say how it is used... Sorry, but I certainly agree, that there are cases, where the language is contradictory, but that doesn't mean, that in *all* cases, when something is not spelled out twice or thrice, you can just ignore written rules, especially when they are not contradicted in the slightest. [b]This is especially true, when a reading of a feat *does* contradict written rules, as opposed to another that does not.[/b] Bye Thanee P.S. Besides, when a Wizard can learn any spell with Extra Spell (within the given spell level and school limits, but not within the class list limits), then a Wizard can do so already without the feat and the rule for casting spells does not really apply and does not limit them in the slightest, since the normal rules for learning spells do not say anything at all about the class list either. And then, in turn, Extra Spell does not allow them to learn any spell at all, since it is generally used by Wizards to learn spells they cannot research, which by your definition rules out all spells (existing and non-existing), anyways. ;) The question then remains... why is there a Wizard spell list in the first place? For activating wands, maybe... :p [/QUOTE]
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