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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3264575" data-attributes="member: 11586">Ok, I see what you are saying.  I guess my point is, sure, at the time the PHB was written and the Extra Spell feat came out, that wouldn't apply ("primarily" referring to Sor-only spells).  But since we have multiple sources to work with now, and since there are Sor-only spells, the arguement does apply.  In other words, I couldn't have made the same arguement pre-Complete Mage (or whatever book the Sor-only spells are in) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  But here is where we are, and so I think that it makes sense.The logic I am using (again) is this...  "Primarily" to me means that this is the main list Sorcerers use to pick their spells from.  So if there is another list (or another way) for Sorcerers to get spells, we have to first see what other lists are out there that the Sorcerer would "legally" (within the D&D rules) be able to take.  There is a Cleric list, a Druid list, a Bard list, etc. and the Sorc is not allowed to pick spells from those lists according to the standard D&D rules in the PHB.  The Sorc DOES have access to a few spells that are only available to the Sorc (as opposed to being available to the Sorc and Wizard).  So, again, this would mean to me that "primarily" they pick from Sorc/Wiz list (as it is written) and then "secondary" (if you will) they can pick from the Sorc-only list (which is very small, it may only have 2 or 3 spells on it).  Anything OTHER than that, they either (a) don't qualify to pick from or (b) the DM could Rule 0 to allow them.  In addition, if they wanted a Cure Light Wounds-type spell, they'd have to use the rules for researching or studying new spells, since Cure Light Wounds is not an "unusual spell" as Clerics and Druids and Bards cast it quite frequently.  However, an "Arcane Cure Light Wounds" (or whatever you choose to call it) that has the same effect as your average "Cure Light Wounds" would be unusual if the DM chose to allow it.Ok, that was entirely more longwinded than I had intended it to be <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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