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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5513506" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>The agathion is from AD&D MM2 - I just had a look to remind myself - and if I ever used one, it was over 20 years ago.</p><p></p><p>I've used a lot of extraplanar creatures over the years - all sorts of devils and demons from D&D sourcebooks, Rolemaster sourcebooks, Palladium sourcebooks, etc (and treating daemons as demons well before 4e, except for charonodaemons which I've always treated as free agents according to the guidelines in MM2), a wide range of shadow creatures, lots of voidal/Far Realms creatures (using mostly the ones from RM's Creatures and Treasures II, authored by Monte Cook, but also the slaad lords from Fiend Folio), constables of hell (from AD&D Oriental Adventures - the Lawful Neutral Oni) and angels as well.</p><p></p><p>I don't think I've ever used a Lammasu, Shedu or Ki-Rin but could be wrong about that. I think I used a Hollyphant once a long time ago. I have used Shirokinukatsukami (from Oriental Adventures) and <em>may</em> have used an Opinicus.</p><p></p><p>As to what I look for in an extraplanar monster - some sort of connection to, or evocation of, thematic content that will engage my players. If an extraplanar creature doesn't link to the mythic history of the gameworld in a way that drives the story forward, it may as well be a mundane monster.</p><p></p><p>So Far Realm/voidal creatures evoke insanity, dissolution or the illusory nature of reality (depending on one's perspective). Demons evoke destruction and dissolution. The way I have generally used devils and angels (including constables of hell) is to reflect notions of duty/obligation/obedience (because both gods and devils are bound by cosmic agreements that transcend the concerns and interests of mere mortals). And creatures like the Shirokinukatsukami (and Lammasu, Shedu etc if I was to use them) I use as free agents sympathetic to the heroes (and to humanity more generally).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5513506, member: 42582"] The agathion is from AD&D MM2 - I just had a look to remind myself - and if I ever used one, it was over 20 years ago. I've used a lot of extraplanar creatures over the years - all sorts of devils and demons from D&D sourcebooks, Rolemaster sourcebooks, Palladium sourcebooks, etc (and treating daemons as demons well before 4e, except for charonodaemons which I've always treated as free agents according to the guidelines in MM2), a wide range of shadow creatures, lots of voidal/Far Realms creatures (using mostly the ones from RM's Creatures and Treasures II, authored by Monte Cook, but also the slaad lords from Fiend Folio), constables of hell (from AD&D Oriental Adventures - the Lawful Neutral Oni) and angels as well. I don't think I've ever used a Lammasu, Shedu or Ki-Rin but could be wrong about that. I think I used a Hollyphant once a long time ago. I have used Shirokinukatsukami (from Oriental Adventures) and [I]may[/I] have used an Opinicus. As to what I look for in an extraplanar monster - some sort of connection to, or evocation of, thematic content that will engage my players. If an extraplanar creature doesn't link to the mythic history of the gameworld in a way that drives the story forward, it may as well be a mundane monster. So Far Realm/voidal creatures evoke insanity, dissolution or the illusory nature of reality (depending on one's perspective). Demons evoke destruction and dissolution. The way I have generally used devils and angels (including constables of hell) is to reflect notions of duty/obligation/obedience (because both gods and devils are bound by cosmic agreements that transcend the concerns and interests of mere mortals). And creatures like the Shirokinukatsukami (and Lammasu, Shedu etc if I was to use them) I use as free agents sympathetic to the heroes (and to humanity more generally). [/QUOTE]
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