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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7483363" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I'm not sure there's any answer I can give you at this point that will satisfy you.&nbsp; I'm not doing this from a game balance perspective.&nbsp; I don't really care about game balance because I think having a truly balanced game is impossible.&nbsp; For hiding I simply make a judgement call on what makes sense.Previous editions had hard-coded rules that went something like &quot;if you are hidden at the start of your turn you can move 10 feet out into the open and still be hidden&quot;.&nbsp; This never made any sense to me.&nbsp; I can step out into the open?&nbsp; Right in front of the guard, drop trow and moon him before stabbing him while &quot;hidden&quot;?&nbsp; WTF?We had to accept that even though the rule made no sense, it was the rule so therefore we had to follow it.&nbsp; Logic, reality (even movie reality), common sense be damned.&nbsp; It pushed narrative aside, kicked it while it was down and spit on it while growling &quot;I'm a game dammit, not a fantasy combat simulator&quot;If someone is engaged in melee combat they are distracted.&nbsp; They're distracted enough to not properly block an attack by the rogue and suffer additional sneak attack damage.&nbsp; They may be distracted enough that they don't even see movement from the direction of the rogue before the strike so the rogue gets advantage.&nbsp; They will not always be that distracted, so the rogue will not always have advantage.That's my story, and my ruling, I'm sticking to it.[EDIT] P.S. see my standard disclaimer, and added &quot;not&quot; to always have advantage.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :o"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7483363, member: 6801845"] I'm not sure there's any answer I can give you at this point that will satisfy you. I'm not doing this from a game balance perspective. I don't really care about game balance because I think having a truly balanced game is impossible. For hiding I simply make a judgement call on what makes sense. Previous editions had hard-coded rules that went something like "if you are hidden at the start of your turn you can move 10 feet out into the open and still be hidden". This never made any sense to me. I can step out into the open? Right in front of the guard, drop trow and moon him before stabbing him while "hidden"? WTF? We had to accept that even though the rule made no sense, it was the rule so therefore we had to follow it. Logic, reality (even movie reality), common sense be damned. It pushed narrative aside, kicked it while it was down and spit on it while growling "I'm a game dammit, not a fantasy combat simulator" If someone is engaged in melee combat they are distracted. They're distracted enough to not properly block an attack by the rogue and suffer additional sneak attack damage. They may be distracted enough that they don't even see movement from the direction of the rogue before the strike so the rogue gets advantage. They will not [I]always[/I] be that distracted, so the rogue will not always have advantage. That's my story, and my ruling, I'm sticking to it. [EDIT] P.S. see my standard disclaimer, and added "not" to always have advantage. :o [/QUOTE]

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