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Message: <blockquote data-quote="boxstop7" data-source="post: 487815" data-attributes="member: 8804">Well, since homo sapiens are neither biologically  nor psychologically  designed to spend their existence with a "life partner", IMHO the whole idea of engagement and marriage is just obsurd.  Seems to me it's just another societal convention instituted to keep us lined up in an orderly fashion.  Having said that, I'll play devil's advocate with myself:  if you're girlfriend/fiancee truly loves you, it won't matter if you spend $12 or $12,000 on a ring.  The idea that you want to spend the rest of your natural life with her should touch her so deeply that nothing else matters.  Now, let's come back to the REAL WORLD, where the vast majority of women use the engagement ring as a status symbol (i.e., if the glare from the stone doesn't blind her friends, it's not a "real" engagement ring...).   My advice:  if your girlfriend is so materialistic that she'd scoff if you didn't fork over 3 months salary for the ring, I'd re-evaluate why you're marrying her.  If she doesn't care, and is simply elated that you want to marry her, ask why.  If she's been planning her wedding all her life, I'd run.  If she's excited but rational about the whole ordeal and holds no unreasonable expectations, I'd consider myself lucky and marry her tomorrow.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />~Box</blockquote>

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