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Factoring items into balance flawed?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4047052" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Here's an analogy that I think covers well the shift in design paradigm.</p><p></p><p>Take an appropriate level fighter and throw him against an iron golem:</p><p></p><p>3.0 - With 50/+5 DR, any fighter that didn't have the right magical weapon was absolutely useless in this encounter. An iron golem is nigh invincible against a party without the right equipment.</p><p></p><p>3.5 - With 15/adamantine, a fighter is still in for a rough fight without the right weapon. However, he can still do enough damage to hurt it. Though it would likely be a grueling fight, with the right tactics a party might come through.</p><p></p><p>4e - (supposition) With 15/? DR, the fighter has his work cut out for him. However, with his great charge power he is able to do extra damage against the golem, breaking through its DR. Utilizing his powers, the fighter is able to overcome. While he would have had an easier time doing it with the right weapon, its not THAT much easier.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So yes, in 4e magic items will still make character more powerful, the difference is the amount. A 3e fighter with the right equipment was leagues above one who wasn't, now he will likely be just a step ahead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 4047052, member: 5889"] Here's an analogy that I think covers well the shift in design paradigm. Take an appropriate level fighter and throw him against an iron golem: 3.0 - With 50/+5 DR, any fighter that didn't have the right magical weapon was absolutely useless in this encounter. An iron golem is nigh invincible against a party without the right equipment. 3.5 - With 15/adamantine, a fighter is still in for a rough fight without the right weapon. However, he can still do enough damage to hurt it. Though it would likely be a grueling fight, with the right tactics a party might come through. 4e - (supposition) With 15/? DR, the fighter has his work cut out for him. However, with his great charge power he is able to do extra damage against the golem, breaking through its DR. Utilizing his powers, the fighter is able to overcome. While he would have had an easier time doing it with the right weapon, its not THAT much easier. So yes, in 4e magic items will still make character more powerful, the difference is the amount. A 3e fighter with the right equipment was leagues above one who wasn't, now he will likely be just a step ahead. [/QUOTE]
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