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<blockquote data-quote="GQuail" data-source="post: 3637487" data-attributes="member: 30709">And once again, Hussar's point that &quot;CR is based on narrow circumstances, and DMs who deviate from it will knock things out of whack&quot; seems to bear fruit.&nbsp; :&gt;Am finding this thread very interesting because my own group is large (been fluctuating between 6 to 8 players) and so I need to play about more with CR.&nbsp; I'd been working to 6 players = EL+1; 8 players = EL+2.&nbsp; My players don't have exceptional rolls or particular odd kit, but sometimes one gets little oddities where encounters don't go as planned, so I'm interested to see how to spot those in advance.The earlier mention of terrain is a good one - as is the note regarding the use of splatbooks.&nbsp; I've recently picked up Spell Compendium specifically to combat this -my players have time to print out spellbooks combining all their favourite books together, but the thoguht of doing that for every NPC I roll up does not appeal to me!&nbsp; This way, I can finally deal with their Cometfalls, their Summon Undead and their Master Air.&nbsp; ;-)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GQuail, post: 3637487, member: 30709"] And once again, Hussar's point that "CR is based on narrow circumstances, and DMs who deviate from it will knock things out of whack" seems to bear fruit. :> Am finding this thread very interesting because my own group is large (been fluctuating between 6 to 8 players) and so I need to play about more with CR. I'd been working to 6 players = EL+1; 8 players = EL+2. My players don't have exceptional rolls or particular odd kit, but sometimes one gets little oddities where encounters don't go as planned, so I'm interested to see how to spot those in advance. The earlier mention of terrain is a good one - as is the note regarding the use of splatbooks. I've recently picked up Spell Compendium specifically to combat this -my players have time to print out spellbooks combining all their favourite books together, but the thoguht of doing that for every NPC I roll up does not appeal to me! This way, I can finally deal with their Cometfalls, their Summon Undead and their Master Air. ;-) [/QUOTE]

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