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<blockquote data-quote="nevin" data-source="post: 9863169" data-attributes="member: 7024481"><p>never said they were exclusive to anyone. But things change cities, kingdoms empire's and other powerful groups rise over time even in places people think aren't good places to do so. If proximity were that important to lumber Africa and the America's would never have been places the British trade company did business with over those resources. And Waterdeep is closer to the lumber than London was to those sources of lumber. I only mentioned a few of the resources mentioned in all the supplements over the years. Mithral mines being one of them. But my point that was obviously lost is that in a place where there is a power vacuum eventually someone or something will eventually fill that void. There have been kingdoms that produced mostly grain and foodstuffs for export, throughout history. By that measure there is plenty in the sword coast to keep a kingdom funded assuming good leadership and enough power to maintain some stability. (always the problem in the sword coast from 1st to 5e). I think some here are so attached to the wilderness that was 1st to 5e that they are irrationally arguing why it could never happen. I've never argued it has to happen but given enough time without outside influences beating it down, I still argue over time it is something that becomes more likely as the world around it becomes more civilized and more knowledgeable. All those monsters won't be nearly as scary with victorian level magictech. Which unless I've jumped threads in my mind was the original premise of this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nevin, post: 9863169, member: 7024481"] never said they were exclusive to anyone. But things change cities, kingdoms empire's and other powerful groups rise over time even in places people think aren't good places to do so. If proximity were that important to lumber Africa and the America's would never have been places the British trade company did business with over those resources. And Waterdeep is closer to the lumber than London was to those sources of lumber. I only mentioned a few of the resources mentioned in all the supplements over the years. Mithral mines being one of them. But my point that was obviously lost is that in a place where there is a power vacuum eventually someone or something will eventually fill that void. There have been kingdoms that produced mostly grain and foodstuffs for export, throughout history. By that measure there is plenty in the sword coast to keep a kingdom funded assuming good leadership and enough power to maintain some stability. (always the problem in the sword coast from 1st to 5e). I think some here are so attached to the wilderness that was 1st to 5e that they are irrationally arguing why it could never happen. I've never argued it has to happen but given enough time without outside influences beating it down, I still argue over time it is something that becomes more likely as the world around it becomes more civilized and more knowledgeable. All those monsters won't be nearly as scary with victorian level magictech. Which unless I've jumped threads in my mind was the original premise of this. [/QUOTE]
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