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<blockquote data-quote="AFGNCAAP" data-source="post: 1249326" data-attributes="member: 871"><p>Well, in that case, I think it'd be relatively easy to do so, and if they're in a magic-rich environment, then you could feasibly leave the classes as is, & not worry about reworking them to lack spellcasting ability. Other than the "amped-up" versions of the Twain found in the 1st/2nd ed. AD&D Deities & Demigods/Legends & Lore, Fafhrd's Wisdom score would be too low for him to cast ranger spells, & he could simply opt never to use any of his bard spells (or be unfamiliar to do so).</p><p></p><p>Mouser would be a rogue/wizard/fighter--he'd never exceed 3rd level as a wizard, & couldn't cast spells due to the lack of a spellbook. If you allow the swashbuckler class from <em>Complete Warrior</em>, then he'd have levels in that class instead of fighter. After reading over the duelist class a lot, I'd say Mouser wouldn't have levels in that class--the significant abilities work only with no armor, and when only wielding a rapier in one hand (thus no 2-weapon fighting). Mouser seemed to be the most prone of the Twain to use 2 weapons while fighting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With Duke Danius, Mouser had help from Ivrian, who wore her mother's clothing (Ivrian's mother/Danius's wife was a cruel, domineering woman who Danius still feared after death), so Ivrian's help & Mouser's magic undid the duke.</p><p></p><p>As for Fafhrd, I think he'd still have bard levels, but not as many as depicted in earlier versions--maybe only 1st level, or up to 3rd at most, but not the 5-6 levels assigned to him earlier. He could work a crowd, but not to the spell-like effects that a higher-level bard could.</p><p></p><p>And the characters are different from story to story--I think Fafhrd's eye color has changed (from blue to green, IIRC), and his hair has been described as red & reddish-blond. Mouser's sword also seems to be a rapier, but at times, the description is more apt for a sort of light saber (as are quite a few illustrations of the Mouser with his weapon).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Had my Lankhmar sourcebooks w/ me, & they have a handy little synopsis for each of the stories (up to Knight & Knave of Swords). Mouser obtained 12 fighter-thieves to sail with him to Rime Isle on his ship <em>Flotsam</em>; Fafhrd gathered 12 berserkers to sail with him on the ship <em>Seahawk</em>. Mouser sailed on <em>Seahawk</em> when he was returning to Rime Isle after a trade trip in "The Mer She."</p><p></p><p>This thread (as well as recent acquisition of CW) has got me working on my Lankhmar conversion again. If anyone is interested, I'll post what I have in this thread, or in a relevant (& related) Rogue's Gallery Thread. It'll take me a while, though--there are quite a few feats that I think are applicable for the characters, but there's only so many that a character can have.</p><p></p><p>If you want, I could work up a Lankhmar-style version of the Twain (setting-intensive versions of races & classes & all), as well as a mainstream D&D-version of the duo (with magic-using versions of classes & all--even magic item recommendations).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AFGNCAAP, post: 1249326, member: 871"] Well, in that case, I think it'd be relatively easy to do so, and if they're in a magic-rich environment, then you could feasibly leave the classes as is, & not worry about reworking them to lack spellcasting ability. Other than the "amped-up" versions of the Twain found in the 1st/2nd ed. AD&D Deities & Demigods/Legends & Lore, Fafhrd's Wisdom score would be too low for him to cast ranger spells, & he could simply opt never to use any of his bard spells (or be unfamiliar to do so). Mouser would be a rogue/wizard/fighter--he'd never exceed 3rd level as a wizard, & couldn't cast spells due to the lack of a spellbook. If you allow the swashbuckler class from [I]Complete Warrior[/I], then he'd have levels in that class instead of fighter. After reading over the duelist class a lot, I'd say Mouser wouldn't have levels in that class--the significant abilities work only with no armor, and when only wielding a rapier in one hand (thus no 2-weapon fighting). Mouser seemed to be the most prone of the Twain to use 2 weapons while fighting. With Duke Danius, Mouser had help from Ivrian, who wore her mother's clothing (Ivrian's mother/Danius's wife was a cruel, domineering woman who Danius still feared after death), so Ivrian's help & Mouser's magic undid the duke. As for Fafhrd, I think he'd still have bard levels, but not as many as depicted in earlier versions--maybe only 1st level, or up to 3rd at most, but not the 5-6 levels assigned to him earlier. He could work a crowd, but not to the spell-like effects that a higher-level bard could. And the characters are different from story to story--I think Fafhrd's eye color has changed (from blue to green, IIRC), and his hair has been described as red & reddish-blond. Mouser's sword also seems to be a rapier, but at times, the description is more apt for a sort of light saber (as are quite a few illustrations of the Mouser with his weapon). Had my Lankhmar sourcebooks w/ me, & they have a handy little synopsis for each of the stories (up to Knight & Knave of Swords). Mouser obtained 12 fighter-thieves to sail with him to Rime Isle on his ship [I]Flotsam[/I]; Fafhrd gathered 12 berserkers to sail with him on the ship [I]Seahawk[/I]. Mouser sailed on [I]Seahawk[/I] when he was returning to Rime Isle after a trade trip in "The Mer She." This thread (as well as recent acquisition of CW) has got me working on my Lankhmar conversion again. If anyone is interested, I'll post what I have in this thread, or in a relevant (& related) Rogue's Gallery Thread. It'll take me a while, though--there are quite a few feats that I think are applicable for the characters, but there's only so many that a character can have. If you want, I could work up a Lankhmar-style version of the Twain (setting-intensive versions of races & classes & all), as well as a mainstream D&D-version of the duo (with magic-using versions of classes & all--even magic item recommendations). [/QUOTE]
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