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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6783640"><p>Just based on the language and flow of your example, I believe my play style is quite different from the one presented (it have to admit, I had some trouble following the details for some reason). When you say "greater intent of sating motivation X" I am not 100% sure I know what you mean. But social rolls are probably not the best example for me, as I place a lot more emphasis on what the player character is saying and doing than on a roll for that (for me, social rolls are things I invoke when there is just a lack of clarity on how the NPC might react). But that said, let's say a player character meets a scholar-official on the road and has some interest in becoming that scholar officials student (I am assuming this would be his "greater intent of sating motivation X"). And he tried to present himself as a well educated man, with a thorough training in the classics in order to impress the scholar official (and let's say this isn't true, the character has only a passing knowledge of the classics). I'll let the player say what he is going to so, but then I might make him make a Deception roll to see if he observes all the correct formalities and subtle expectations. If he fails, this scholar official is not going to buy his story. </p><p></p><p>However, whether combat ensures, whether the NPC remains open to a relationship down the road, whether they become adversaries, that is all going to be a product of the NPCs motives, goals and how those interact with the actions of the player character. The failed deception roll would be a factor, because the player just lied to him and that might not paint the character in the best light. But rarely would such a roll tell me how their relationship is going to pan out for the rest of the session or the rest of the campaign, it only tells me what happened in that one instance and that feeds the bigger picture of things. I'm not going to have the scholar official respond in some way that meets the players desire for a particular motivation though. It is going to be dependent on what seems like an appropriate reaction based on what happens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 6783640"] Just based on the language and flow of your example, I believe my play style is quite different from the one presented (it have to admit, I had some trouble following the details for some reason). When you say "greater intent of sating motivation X" I am not 100% sure I know what you mean. But social rolls are probably not the best example for me, as I place a lot more emphasis on what the player character is saying and doing than on a roll for that (for me, social rolls are things I invoke when there is just a lack of clarity on how the NPC might react). But that said, let's say a player character meets a scholar-official on the road and has some interest in becoming that scholar officials student (I am assuming this would be his "greater intent of sating motivation X"). And he tried to present himself as a well educated man, with a thorough training in the classics in order to impress the scholar official (and let's say this isn't true, the character has only a passing knowledge of the classics). I'll let the player say what he is going to so, but then I might make him make a Deception roll to see if he observes all the correct formalities and subtle expectations. If he fails, this scholar official is not going to buy his story. However, whether combat ensures, whether the NPC remains open to a relationship down the road, whether they become adversaries, that is all going to be a product of the NPCs motives, goals and how those interact with the actions of the player character. The failed deception roll would be a factor, because the player just lied to him and that might not paint the character in the best light. But rarely would such a roll tell me how their relationship is going to pan out for the rest of the session or the rest of the campaign, it only tells me what happened in that one instance and that feeds the bigger picture of things. I'm not going to have the scholar official respond in some way that meets the players desire for a particular motivation though. It is going to be dependent on what seems like an appropriate reaction based on what happens. [/QUOTE]
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