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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6786065" data-attributes="member: 29398">There's no great difference, in the end.The D&D system doesn't know what will happen until the dice are rolled any more than the BW system does.  And if a failure (or success) generates consequences in either system then the DM will (I hope!) narrate such.I tend to prefer what you call "Let It Ride" in D&D as well; if a second attempt is to be made at a stuck door I insist there be something materially different about it e.g. getting an ally to help, as you've already given plan A your best shot.  And there's no reason at all why a failed attempt might not attract unwanted attention in BW the same as it does in D&D.  And even though it seems BW kinda forces consequences to occur there's no reason a GM can't override this and simply say "The door remains resolutely closed but nothing else seems to have changed."; just like a D&D DM is always able to narrate a set pull-the-door-open-at-the-right-moment ambush if she wants to.True, just some modifiers for the type of surface being climbed.  Balance is kind of in there as part of Dex, which does modify your climb chance.  I can't offhand remember whether Str affects climbing in RAW 1e, it does to a small extent in my game but that might be a local tweak.  Equipment is variable enough that it's almost up to the DM to modify the chance each time based on what's being used and by whom.A DM is always free to narrate whatever makes sense at the time; a player also could in this case, in character.But here we get back to the same argument as with Mt Pudding: can you in any way reach the top (i.e. succeed) on a failed roll in either system?  If yes, then "fail" is probably the wrong word to be using.Lanefan</blockquote>

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