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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6787079" data-attributes="member: 177">Reductio ad absurdum has the tendency of backfiring when you look more like you are trying to be difficult than you are trying to get at something substantive.  Wriggling your way into a corner case of absolute logic that a casual discussion didn't deal with explicitly does not mean the opponent needs to throw their hands in the air and accept you are correct.Which is to say - in a discussion of good faith, trying to be reasonable is preferable to 'gotchas'.  Leave room for colloquial use of language, please and thanks.</blockquote>