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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 6793104" data-attributes="member: 6698278">Perhaps realism is a loaded word.&nbsp; Obviously it is a fantasy game.&nbsp; What is modeled is not anything approaching reality.&nbsp; When i say realism, I am really just saying the player knows what his character knows and acts on that knowledge and nothing else.&nbsp;&nbsp; There has been a trend in modern gaming where players invent the world along with the DM.&nbsp;&nbsp; Basically do players have input powers on the world or not.&nbsp;&nbsp; In my campaigns they do not.&nbsp;&nbsp; I recognize other styles exist though of course.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just not my preference.&nbsp;&nbsp; As for the DM using his judgment to have something happen on a failure instead of just failure,&nbsp; I'd only say i'd want it codified.&nbsp;&nbsp; On a failed climbing roll, follow it up with a roll on another table to determine other aspects.&nbsp;&nbsp; That would be fine. It would then become part of the physics of the world.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not even sure a DM who is really consistent couldn't make it up as he goes though I'd be very nervous to play with the DM.&nbsp;&nbsp; 99% of the time he wouldn't end up providing a campaign I'd like.&nbsp; I leave open the theoretical possibility for that 1%.I prefer detailed DMs with really deep campaign worlds that I can discover.&nbsp; I want those worlds to be built like a clock so that the interconnections are already there and are not waiting for me a player to invent them.It's nothing more than a matter of taste.&nbsp; I'm not saying your way isn't a valid way to play.&nbsp; It just doesn't satisfy me either as a player or DM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 6793104, member: 6698278"] Perhaps realism is a loaded word. Obviously it is a fantasy game. What is modeled is not anything approaching reality. When i say realism, I am really just saying the player knows what his character knows and acts on that knowledge and nothing else. There has been a trend in modern gaming where players invent the world along with the DM. Basically do players have input powers on the world or not. In my campaigns they do not. I recognize other styles exist though of course. Just not my preference. As for the DM using his judgment to have something happen on a failure instead of just failure, I'd only say i'd want it codified. On a failed climbing roll, follow it up with a roll on another table to determine other aspects. That would be fine. It would then become part of the physics of the world. I'm not even sure a DM who is really consistent couldn't make it up as he goes though I'd be very nervous to play with the DM. 99% of the time he wouldn't end up providing a campaign I'd like. I leave open the theoretical possibility for that 1%. I prefer detailed DMs with really deep campaign worlds that I can discover. I want those worlds to be built like a clock so that the interconnections are already there and are not waiting for me a player to invent them. It's nothing more than a matter of taste. I'm not saying your way isn't a valid way to play. It just doesn't satisfy me either as a player or DM. [/QUOTE]

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