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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6799691" data-attributes="member: 42582">I would say that the answer to this is "yes" - a 4e GM who imposes the sort of consequence you describe is not imposing any consequence that goes outside the rules or seeming intent of the system.The most natural way to handle the whole thing, if it was meant to carry significant weight during play, would be as a skill challenge. The alerting of the guards would be a narrated consequence of failure but, assuming that that failure does not also bring the skill challenge to an end, the players get to declare further skill checks to try and alter the situation in their favour.This seems to have some similarities to a Fate "compel".Personally I prefer slightly tighter GM control over the narration of consequences, because of the conflict-of-interest issues that can arise on the part of players. Avoiding "guessing games" can then be handled in other ways (eg conversation).</blockquote>