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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6804830" data-attributes="member: 27160"><p>I think you set up a false comparison, here. Let me draw another picture of the "DM of the Rings" as it might play out:</p><p></p><p>- Either following previously played-out investigations or because the GM agreed with the player of Gandalf as part of character creation that Gandalf had strong suspicions that the "ring of invisibility" that Bilbo had found was, in fact, the One, Gandalf has such strong suspicions. Strong enough suspicions, in fact, that to risk damaging a run of the mill "invisibility ring" to find out the truth once and for all.</p><p></p><p>- Gandalf throws the ring in the fire. Dice are rolled to see what happens. Because of the evidence gained beforehand and/or because of the steer given to Gandalf's player at game start, the odds are stacked pretty well to the "One Ring" side, but it's not a foregone conclusion.</p><p></p><p>- Either the ring <em>is</em> the One, and the players must decide where to go from there, or it isn't - which raises more questions about why the Great Darkness is once more stirring. Sauron is still seeking the One with all his power, after all...</p><p></p><p>Not only does this strike me as a perfectly good way to go with the play, it also seems to me to be much, much closer in immersive feel to the fictional scene that we might imagine in Bag End that evening. After all, Gandalf, though he had strong suspicions and good reasons to think that the ring Bilbo found was the One Ring, he didn't know it for certain. Without the real risk of an contrary result, the tension that we imagine being felt by the characters on that night evaporates. We already know, where they did not, what the outcome will be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 6804830, member: 27160"] I think you set up a false comparison, here. Let me draw another picture of the "DM of the Rings" as it might play out: - Either following previously played-out investigations or because the GM agreed with the player of Gandalf as part of character creation that Gandalf had strong suspicions that the "ring of invisibility" that Bilbo had found was, in fact, the One, Gandalf has such strong suspicions. Strong enough suspicions, in fact, that to risk damaging a run of the mill "invisibility ring" to find out the truth once and for all. - Gandalf throws the ring in the fire. Dice are rolled to see what happens. Because of the evidence gained beforehand and/or because of the steer given to Gandalf's player at game start, the odds are stacked pretty well to the "One Ring" side, but it's not a foregone conclusion. - Either the ring [I]is[/I] the One, and the players must decide where to go from there, or it isn't - which raises more questions about why the Great Darkness is once more stirring. Sauron is still seeking the One with all his power, after all... Not only does this strike me as a perfectly good way to go with the play, it also seems to me to be much, much closer in immersive feel to the fictional scene that we might imagine in Bag End that evening. After all, Gandalf, though he had strong suspicions and good reasons to think that the ring Bilbo found was the One Ring, he didn't know it for certain. Without the real risk of an contrary result, the tension that we imagine being felt by the characters on that night evaporates. We already know, where they did not, what the outcome will be. [/QUOTE]
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