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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6815373" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Even if the most natural usage involved dirt and a lack of cleanliness, there are still other usages.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pre-authoring means authoring things before the scene. If I pre-author the fouled waterhole, that doesn't limit me to one way to use it, or that I even know for sure how it will be used. Pre-authorship does not have to be total in order for it to be pre-authorship. That's my point. You seem to be thinking that pre-authoring involves having a set advance plan that will happen no matter what in an exacting manner that isn't open to change.</p><p></p><p>I'm just pointing out that pre-authoring is not like that and that you can still run a game similar to how you run it AND use pre-authored content at the same time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the players cannot learn from a fouled waterhole that there are possibly enemies around that are fouling waterholes and/or that they might run across more fouled waterholes, then your method of gaming also has limitations. You've just chosen different limitations than those provided by pre-authoring.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since I don't know what BW stands for, I'm going to go with no <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>However, your paragraph shows where the misunderstanding is coming from. What you are describing has nothing to do with the spirit of the game. The game is D&D and what I am saying is right in line with the game's spirit. What you are describing is an issue dealing with the spirit of the playstyle. You have chosen a playstyle to use in the game of D&D that would be violated by a DM narrating the scene like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not what I'm trying to show. I'm trying to show that the way I do it, in this case pre-authorship, is different from your portrayal of what I do. Pre-authorship is not the bane you make it out to be. Indeed, that I pre-author and you stated...</p><p></p><p>"I don't see how, by pointing out that your pre-authorship is not total - that you work out details during play - you think you're showing some sort of disagreement with me."</p><p></p><p>...seems to indicate that you realize that pre-authorship doesn't in and of itself doesn't run completely contrary to how you do things. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6815373, member: 23751"] Even if the most natural usage involved dirt and a lack of cleanliness, there are still other usages. Pre-authoring means authoring things before the scene. If I pre-author the fouled waterhole, that doesn't limit me to one way to use it, or that I even know for sure how it will be used. Pre-authorship does not have to be total in order for it to be pre-authorship. That's my point. You seem to be thinking that pre-authoring involves having a set advance plan that will happen no matter what in an exacting manner that isn't open to change. I'm just pointing out that pre-authoring is not like that and that you can still run a game similar to how you run it AND use pre-authored content at the same time. If the players cannot learn from a fouled waterhole that there are possibly enemies around that are fouling waterholes and/or that they might run across more fouled waterholes, then your method of gaming also has limitations. You've just chosen different limitations than those provided by pre-authoring. Since I don't know what BW stands for, I'm going to go with no ;) However, your paragraph shows where the misunderstanding is coming from. What you are describing has nothing to do with the spirit of the game. The game is D&D and what I am saying is right in line with the game's spirit. What you are describing is an issue dealing with the spirit of the playstyle. You have chosen a playstyle to use in the game of D&D that would be violated by a DM narrating the scene like that. That's not what I'm trying to show. I'm trying to show that the way I do it, in this case pre-authorship, is different from your portrayal of what I do. Pre-authorship is not the bane you make it out to be. Indeed, that I pre-author and you stated... "I don't see how, by pointing out that your pre-authorship is not total - that you work out details during play - you think you're showing some sort of disagreement with me." ...seems to indicate that you realize that pre-authorship doesn't in and of itself doesn't run completely contrary to how you do things. :) [/QUOTE]
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