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<blockquote data-quote="MadBlue" data-source="post: 2702299" data-attributes="member: 7552"><p>The same way you temporarily lose the use of all the Feats in the Dodge Feat Chain (as per p87 of the PHB). The descriptions of individual PrCs give additional conditions in which you lose Special Abilities or are no longer qualified to gain levels in the PrC. </p><p></p><p>IMHO, it makes sense for some Dwarven Defender abilities, such as Uncanny Dodge and Trap Sense, but Defensive Stance and Damage Reduction seem to be more keyed to Endurance and Toughness than Dodge. I guess it's easier than parsing out which prerequisite corresponds to which Special Ability and discourages people from dipping, but it also leads to some pretty weird results in application. Consider a Dragon Disciple who, for some reason, loses the ability to speak Draconic. Suddenly she loses the use of her wings, claws, fangs and natural armor, blindsense, ability boosts and bonus spells?</p><p></p><p>Then again, if you <em>don't</em> lose Special Abilities when you no longer meet the prerequisites, the fact that you can meet the prerequisite of a PrC through a magic item is a bit unbalanced, considering how easy it is to get magic items in some campaigns. </p><p></p><p>My question is, if this rule is part of 3.5, why did they wait until CW to mention this rule in 3.5? And why is it mentioned in CW and CA, but not in CD and CV? Did the designers assume that people were playing with the rule from 3.0?</p><p></p><p>MadBlue</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadBlue, post: 2702299, member: 7552"] The same way you temporarily lose the use of all the Feats in the Dodge Feat Chain (as per p87 of the PHB). The descriptions of individual PrCs give additional conditions in which you lose Special Abilities or are no longer qualified to gain levels in the PrC. IMHO, it makes sense for some Dwarven Defender abilities, such as Uncanny Dodge and Trap Sense, but Defensive Stance and Damage Reduction seem to be more keyed to Endurance and Toughness than Dodge. I guess it's easier than parsing out which prerequisite corresponds to which Special Ability and discourages people from dipping, but it also leads to some pretty weird results in application. Consider a Dragon Disciple who, for some reason, loses the ability to speak Draconic. Suddenly she loses the use of her wings, claws, fangs and natural armor, blindsense, ability boosts and bonus spells? Then again, if you [i]don't[/i] lose Special Abilities when you no longer meet the prerequisites, the fact that you can meet the prerequisite of a PrC through a magic item is a bit unbalanced, considering how easy it is to get magic items in some campaigns. My question is, if this rule is part of 3.5, why did they wait until CW to mention this rule in 3.5? And why is it mentioned in CW and CA, but not in CD and CV? Did the designers assume that people were playing with the rule from 3.0? MadBlue [/QUOTE]
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