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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7561365" data-attributes="member: 82106">Just generally replying to you guy's input in these two posts above:Actually, rereading the thread opener, I DO find that the assumption is that the journey will end successfully, and that was in fact the default assumption in the analysis which took place on page 1. Now, [MENTION=1282]darkbard[/MENTION] phrased it as an assumption &quot;I presume a &quot;fail forward&quot; ethos, and so simply not arriving at their destination or getting lost is off the table.&quot; This was the core of my original analysis.Now, when I responded to [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION], I thought I was going a bit on a tangent by applying a more classic story now, play to see what happens kind of a process to elucidate how it might contrast with the &quot;party must reach Winterhaven&quot; sort of starter post assumption. Admittedly this assumed that there was some degree of 'script' (IE maybe they were playing out KotS or something like that) vs simply &quot;the players set this as their goal.&quot; In the later case, then play to see what happens could allow for either &quot;play to see how they get there&quot; or it could allow for &quot;play to see IF they get there.&quot; Again, the above quoted bit from the post lead me to assume that the former case was more prevalent, though IIRC I did touch on both in my story now post.I think what this shows us is that there are a wide range of things that could be in play here, depending on exactly what desires the players expressed. Given that darkbard states this is a type of narratively driven play without any set plot lines, either of [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION]'s or my points can be further developed. Given the statements about &quot;travel is dangerous&quot; I would be likely to take it that a &quot;man against nature&quot; type of conflict is in play here, with the stakes being a risk to whatever goal the PCs have which is driving them to travel to Winterhaven, plus whatever resources they might stake on it. They might also stand to gain things, XP and treasure perhaps at the least.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7561365, member: 82106"] Just generally replying to you guy's input in these two posts above: Actually, rereading the thread opener, I DO find that the assumption is that the journey will end successfully, and that was in fact the default assumption in the analysis which took place on page 1. Now, [MENTION=1282]darkbard[/MENTION] phrased it as an assumption "I presume a "fail forward" ethos, and so simply not arriving at their destination or getting lost is off the table." This was the core of my original analysis. Now, when I responded to [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION], I thought I was going a bit on a tangent by applying a more classic story now, play to see what happens kind of a process to elucidate how it might contrast with the "party must reach Winterhaven" sort of starter post assumption. Admittedly this assumed that there was some degree of 'script' (IE maybe they were playing out KotS or something like that) vs simply "the players set this as their goal." In the later case, then play to see what happens could allow for either "play to see how they get there" or it could allow for "play to see IF they get there." Again, the above quoted bit from the post lead me to assume that the former case was more prevalent, though IIRC I did touch on both in my story now post. I think what this shows us is that there are a wide range of things that could be in play here, depending on exactly what desires the players expressed. Given that darkbard states this is a type of narratively driven play without any set plot lines, either of [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION]'s or my points can be further developed. Given the statements about "travel is dangerous" I would be likely to take it that a "man against nature" type of conflict is in play here, with the stakes being a risk to whatever goal the PCs have which is driving them to travel to Winterhaven, plus whatever resources they might stake on it. They might also stand to gain things, XP and treasure perhaps at the least. [/QUOTE]

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