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Fair 1st level Spell?
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<blockquote data-quote="Maldor" data-source="post: 4113486" data-attributes="member: 44918"><p>It's weak. I don't know why you guys think this thing is over the top. I would almost never cast it 1d4 total ever, to one target that you have to make a attack roll on, then they get a save, a fort save most monsters best save and your worried that it has no hit die limit. By the time this is better then sleep or colorspray becuase of hit die the monsters are going to fail that save maybe 10% of the time it is damn hard to raise your spell DCs to match the save mods </p><p>For me to use pages of my spellbook on this spell bump the damage to 1d4 per two levels (max 5d4) even then i'll usally go with hail of stone, colorspray, magic missle, mage armor, shield, ray of enfeeblement, grease, or mount those horses are so useful meat sheild, sitting off traps, saleing to a merchant on your way out of town, hualing loot and of course riding them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maldor, post: 4113486, member: 44918"] It's weak. I don't know why you guys think this thing is over the top. I would almost never cast it 1d4 total ever, to one target that you have to make a attack roll on, then they get a save, a fort save most monsters best save and your worried that it has no hit die limit. By the time this is better then sleep or colorspray becuase of hit die the monsters are going to fail that save maybe 10% of the time it is damn hard to raise your spell DCs to match the save mods For me to use pages of my spellbook on this spell bump the damage to 1d4 per two levels (max 5d4) even then i'll usally go with hail of stone, colorspray, magic missle, mage armor, shield, ray of enfeeblement, grease, or mount those horses are so useful meat sheild, sitting off traps, saleing to a merchant on your way out of town, hualing loot and of course riding them. [/QUOTE]
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