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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8243141" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>. . . Does that even matter? Seriously, does this question even need asking? Any reasonable person knows that if someone is laying on their back on the ground surrendering, you do not brutally murder them. It doesn't matter if it's public or not, or if they're wanted terrorists, you just don't do it. You arrest them for their crimes and then they're tried in a court of law. This is a textbook case of police brutality, even if Walker isn't a police officer. If you choose "kill this person" over "take them in", that is objectively wrong and unnecessary brutality.</p><p></p><p>PR shouldn't even be in consideration here. This is unnecessary force from the person who is supposed to be protecting us, which is quite obviously a parallel to the real world police brutality of last year that became public (especially mirroring the case of George Floyd). This is supposed to bring up a dilemma, what do you do when your protectors get corrupt and start abusing their power? Zemo has a real, valid point here. Power tends to corrupt, especially for people who want/seek after that power. If we give people the idea that they are the law (or that they are above it), that causes all sorts of problems, such as them straight up murdering people in cold blood in public.</p><p></p><p>Because that's what this is, and what police brutality that ends in death is. It's murder. If someone is at your mercy, and you choose to kill them, that's murder. If the guy was fighting back and trying to kill Walker, that's different. It's still bad for PR, because no one wants to see your heroes killing people in public, even if it is in self defense. However, this wasn't self defense. It was rage-fueled, cold-blooded murder with the very symbol that is meant to be a sign of security and democracy. It doesn't matter what the orders were, or what they were supposed to do, because in the moment, Walker decided to take vengeance into his own hands and murder someone right in front of the world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8243141, member: 7023887"] . . . Does that even matter? Seriously, does this question even need asking? Any reasonable person knows that if someone is laying on their back on the ground surrendering, you do not brutally murder them. It doesn't matter if it's public or not, or if they're wanted terrorists, you just don't do it. You arrest them for their crimes and then they're tried in a court of law. This is a textbook case of police brutality, even if Walker isn't a police officer. If you choose "kill this person" over "take them in", that is objectively wrong and unnecessary brutality. PR shouldn't even be in consideration here. This is unnecessary force from the person who is supposed to be protecting us, which is quite obviously a parallel to the real world police brutality of last year that became public (especially mirroring the case of George Floyd). This is supposed to bring up a dilemma, what do you do when your protectors get corrupt and start abusing their power? Zemo has a real, valid point here. Power tends to corrupt, especially for people who want/seek after that power. If we give people the idea that they are the law (or that they are above it), that causes all sorts of problems, such as them straight up murdering people in cold blood in public. Because that's what this is, and what police brutality that ends in death is. It's murder. If someone is at your mercy, and you choose to kill them, that's murder. If the guy was fighting back and trying to kill Walker, that's different. It's still bad for PR, because no one wants to see your heroes killing people in public, even if it is in self defense. However, this wasn't self defense. It was rage-fueled, cold-blooded murder with the very symbol that is meant to be a sign of security and democracy. It doesn't matter what the orders were, or what they were supposed to do, because in the moment, Walker decided to take vengeance into his own hands and murder someone right in front of the world. [/QUOTE]
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