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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8243324" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>Definitely. Pretty much all of the characters are gray, from Karli, to Lamar, to Bucky, and even Zemo, but there is also a lot of black and white. Karli's bombing of innocents is bad, Walker's taking of the serum and the murder of Karli's friend is bad, Zemo's destruction of the serum is good, Sam's attempt to reason is good, and Bucky's anger at Sam for giving up the shield is also pretty justified. </p><p></p><p>I wonder if they will actually destroy the Shield at the end of this series (if they can even do that). It has been mentioned quite a bit already, to the extent where it feels like if it gets mentioned so much it must happen. Zemo's statement about symbols and them being used to cover up flaws is a good point, and may be why Sam and/or Bucky eventually decide to destroy the Shield in an effort to prevent it from ever being misused by someone like Walker in the future. Sam could use the Shield and uphold its meaning, but it may be even more meaningful for both the character and the show if he decides that the destruction of the symbol is the best option. It kind of reminds me of Peter turning down being an Avenger (and the Iron Spider Suit) at the end of Spider-Man: Homecoming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8243324, member: 7023887"] Definitely. Pretty much all of the characters are gray, from Karli, to Lamar, to Bucky, and even Zemo, but there is also a lot of black and white. Karli's bombing of innocents is bad, Walker's taking of the serum and the murder of Karli's friend is bad, Zemo's destruction of the serum is good, Sam's attempt to reason is good, and Bucky's anger at Sam for giving up the shield is also pretty justified. I wonder if they will actually destroy the Shield at the end of this series (if they can even do that). It has been mentioned quite a bit already, to the extent where it feels like if it gets mentioned so much it must happen. Zemo's statement about symbols and them being used to cover up flaws is a good point, and may be why Sam and/or Bucky eventually decide to destroy the Shield in an effort to prevent it from ever being misused by someone like Walker in the future. Sam could use the Shield and uphold its meaning, but it may be even more meaningful for both the character and the show if he decides that the destruction of the symbol is the best option. It kind of reminds me of Peter turning down being an Avenger (and the Iron Spider Suit) at the end of Spider-Man: Homecoming. [/QUOTE]
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