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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 8243788" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>You raise excellent points.</p><p></p><p>I still don't like Walker (<em>as a person, I love the character</em>). He's not a complete a-hole, nor a cartoonish villain, he's a fleshed out, relatable antagonist. You can understand why he does what he does, and sympathize . . . . but he still drove past a-hole town and straight to the Dark Side with the final act of episode 4. Not unlike Morgenthau and the Flag-Smashers.</p><p></p><p>I think Walker's time as DeCap America is over, not so much due to the ethics of his actions, but rather due to the optics. I doubt he'll be court-martialed or otherwise punished much, save for the demotion. Especially as the US military now has a super-soldier in their employ. Perhaps they'll give him a new super-suit and title, maybe Patriot? U.S. Agent? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Even with his pending demotion, Walker might find himself with cheerleaders from among the American public. We have folks in our society now who would cheer him on with the ultra-violence towards those labeled terrorists.</p><p></p><p>You mention that this sort of rage-fueled violence isn't anything new, especially with soldiers, and that's true. But this sort of behavior is always considered against the rules of engagement and crimes of war. It is not okay, whether it's DeCap America John Walker or real American soldiers in the Middle East. Sometimes real soldiers get punished for this sort of behavior, sometimes its swept under the rug. Often depends on how visible the behavior was to Americans back home.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 8243788, member: 18182"] You raise excellent points. I still don't like Walker ([I]as a person, I love the character[/I]). He's not a complete a-hole, nor a cartoonish villain, he's a fleshed out, relatable antagonist. You can understand why he does what he does, and sympathize . . . . but he still drove past a-hole town and straight to the Dark Side with the final act of episode 4. Not unlike Morgenthau and the Flag-Smashers. I think Walker's time as DeCap America is over, not so much due to the ethics of his actions, but rather due to the optics. I doubt he'll be court-martialed or otherwise punished much, save for the demotion. Especially as the US military now has a super-soldier in their employ. Perhaps they'll give him a new super-suit and title, maybe Patriot? U.S. Agent? :) Even with his pending demotion, Walker might find himself with cheerleaders from among the American public. We have folks in our society now who would cheer him on with the ultra-violence towards those labeled terrorists. You mention that this sort of rage-fueled violence isn't anything new, especially with soldiers, and that's true. But this sort of behavior is always considered against the rules of engagement and crimes of war. It is not okay, whether it's DeCap America John Walker or real American soldiers in the Middle East. Sometimes real soldiers get punished for this sort of behavior, sometimes its swept under the rug. Often depends on how visible the behavior was to Americans back home. [/QUOTE]
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