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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8254436" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>So the finale just came out....what did I think?</p><p></p><p>[Spoiler]</p><p>Sam's new costume is tight. I really liked that at the end, he finished his battle with words instead of fists. Captain America is not about power, its about the symbol that inspires others to do the right thing...and they nailed that piece.</p><p></p><p>I am glad that Walker didn't go full heel turn on us, that when the choice came between revenge and saving others that he made the right call. That said it did feel a little too neat, he shows up, they all fight together....everything is just cool.</p><p></p><p>The Flag Smashers were the biggest casualty of the 6 episode runtime. At the end, they seemed to just fade with a whimper. They kept going with this "lets convince Karli that killing is bad".... but at the same time showed her coming to terms with her mission and being ready to die for it. Being a revolutionary....means killing the old order....its not a pretty business, and Karli had gained her conviction. So to see her a bit torn at the end, and even apologize as she died....it just didn't sit right with me. They made these group out to be a massive world spanning "cult", and at the end their master plan was to kidnap a few people and negotiate for more stuff.....that's it?</p><p></p><p>There is also the oddity with their ending. We got the guard saying "One World, One People" suggesting the movement will live on...but then everyone gets firebombed....suggesting they are really dead, so its unclear what they are going for there.</p><p></p><p>Shannon Carter as the Power Broker seemed pretty obvious but I do like it. Ultimately why she wasn't taken care of when Cap seemed to help everyone else is a massive plot gap to me....but considering what happened, I think her change makes complete sense, and glad to see the character will stick around for new things in the future.</p><p></p><p>The fact that we finally get the scene with Bucky and the old Japanese man and then cut that short was an absolute travesty. Did the man forgive him, did he rage out and demand justice... I mean all we got was "why?".....because I had no choice. Sorry Bucky the guy needs a little more than that. That was the biggest character moment for Bucky in the entire show and they cut it in half.</p><p></p><p>I continue to like Sam's unique style. The moment where he took a super soldier's punch on the shield but sticking his wings into the ground for support was very cool.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately I think the show was....fine, just fine. We got a little character, not as much as I wanted. The plot and villain was ultimately just there to have stuff happen. I do think Bucky and Sam are a good team...but I didn't get as much "buddy cop" elements as I expected coming into the show. I enjoyed it all things considered, its a fine filler while waiting for the next movie, but its unlikely to be something I rewatch.</p><p></p><p>And lastly, my man Zemo. So did the Contessa put Zemo in the raft or break him out of it....they never actually say. I will say it doesn't make any sense for Zemo to be in the raft, he's awesome but he's just a good operative, he's not packing super powers or anything.</p><p>[/Spoiler]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8254436, member: 5889"] So the finale just came out....what did I think? [Spoiler] Sam's new costume is tight. I really liked that at the end, he finished his battle with words instead of fists. Captain America is not about power, its about the symbol that inspires others to do the right thing...and they nailed that piece. I am glad that Walker didn't go full heel turn on us, that when the choice came between revenge and saving others that he made the right call. That said it did feel a little too neat, he shows up, they all fight together....everything is just cool. The Flag Smashers were the biggest casualty of the 6 episode runtime. At the end, they seemed to just fade with a whimper. They kept going with this "lets convince Karli that killing is bad".... but at the same time showed her coming to terms with her mission and being ready to die for it. Being a revolutionary....means killing the old order....its not a pretty business, and Karli had gained her conviction. So to see her a bit torn at the end, and even apologize as she died....it just didn't sit right with me. They made these group out to be a massive world spanning "cult", and at the end their master plan was to kidnap a few people and negotiate for more stuff.....that's it? There is also the oddity with their ending. We got the guard saying "One World, One People" suggesting the movement will live on...but then everyone gets firebombed....suggesting they are really dead, so its unclear what they are going for there. Shannon Carter as the Power Broker seemed pretty obvious but I do like it. Ultimately why she wasn't taken care of when Cap seemed to help everyone else is a massive plot gap to me....but considering what happened, I think her change makes complete sense, and glad to see the character will stick around for new things in the future. The fact that we finally get the scene with Bucky and the old Japanese man and then cut that short was an absolute travesty. Did the man forgive him, did he rage out and demand justice... I mean all we got was "why?".....because I had no choice. Sorry Bucky the guy needs a little more than that. That was the biggest character moment for Bucky in the entire show and they cut it in half. I continue to like Sam's unique style. The moment where he took a super soldier's punch on the shield but sticking his wings into the ground for support was very cool. Ultimately I think the show was....fine, just fine. We got a little character, not as much as I wanted. The plot and villain was ultimately just there to have stuff happen. I do think Bucky and Sam are a good team...but I didn't get as much "buddy cop" elements as I expected coming into the show. I enjoyed it all things considered, its a fine filler while waiting for the next movie, but its unlikely to be something I rewatch. And lastly, my man Zemo. So did the Contessa put Zemo in the raft or break him out of it....they never actually say. I will say it doesn't make any sense for Zemo to be in the raft, he's awesome but he's just a good operative, he's not packing super powers or anything. [/Spoiler] [/QUOTE]
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